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Posted by J.O. Aho on 05/29/06 07:18
Frankly wrote:
> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
> as you have probably guessed i have spent the last couple of days checking
> out
> studio express. I got all the way up to finding a web host and that is when
> i felt
> i didnt want to be stuck with ms at the same time i dont like being at the
> mercy of hosting companies.
>
There are a number of web hotels which do provide php/mysql for their
subscribers, you find them easily with a google search or hang in alt.php for
a while, sooner or later some spammer will make a post.
>> If you want help with linux, there are many newsgroups and all I have been
>> subscribing to have been helpful and friendly.
>> I do suggest you first look for
>> a newsgroup that is linked to your distro of choice, this gives you
>> usually better help. If you don't fuind any good newsgroup you have
>> alt.linux, do avoid comp.os.linux.x as long as you don't have questions
>> about X Windows System and things related to it (there are all to many who
>> tries to ask help for miscellaneous questions, but seldom get any help).
>
> i was looking into Redhat although someone with your knowledge might use
> something more like slackware which is not so dumbed down.
I did begin with RedHat and I think it was a quite good distro (other won't),
RPM with it's deep dependency checks does see to that you won't easily break
your system and today when named Fedora it has easy to use package installer
that fixes dependencies when you select to install something (from online)
that you don't currently have the full dependency for.
There are two things that I think is a drawback for RedHat/Fedora nowadays and
it's the extensive use of Gnome2 (it's not that user friendly and developers
don't listen to endusers and claims people don't know anything, attacks
against mr Torvalds and Mr Cox I have seen), sadly most distros today are
quite gnomy2fied even distros who claims that the user has the freedom to
choose like Gentoo. The other thing is that you have to hassle quite a lot to
get your kernel-source for the official kernels (this used to be provided as a
already made package, but now you need to rebuild the source-rpm to get the
kernel source).
What matter is that you feel you have the right distro, not what others thinks
is the right one.
> I have talked to my wife and think that if it makes it easier and better for
> us that perhaps i should get a server. I would like 1 day to open an office
> and have a few computers (about 5) connected to a server.
> the 2 computers we have now we both need. I really wonder what it would
> take to have my own server, run current editions of mysql and what ever gui
> i choose.
A server should run without GUI, better performance and better usage of ram.
As long as you don't run any X Windows Server, you can manage with a Pentium
266 with 256MB ram, directly when you add X Windows System you will need IMHO
at least a PII-600 with 512MB. Keep in mind that more ram is always better,
for harddrive 20GB will be okey, depending on how much data you will have and
you can always later on add another harddrive.
> i can not see spending more than a dsl line ( right now ) and
> wonder if that would be enough for about 5 visitors at a time.
You can manage that kind of traffic (if you don't have much images) with a 56k
modem, the more images and the larger they are the more bandwidth you need.
> could i buy a good server and install a cheap version of linux? the most I
> could put together is $1000.
I think you can manage with a machine that is under US$500 and you can always
download the linux directly from the net (it's legal) and then burn it out on
a CD or DVD (depending on the iso). Of course if you buy a copy from a compnay
like RedHat (they sell only expensive versions nowadays) you get a load of
extra programs that aren't covered by GPL and a good support.
For a home user I think the free version and newsgroups are a better option.
> and also security is an issue. perhaps it is better to wait.
Just see to that the up2date (or what the distro will use) is run and keeps
your machine with the latest packages all the time.
> what is the cheapest version someone with my knowledge can get?
US$0, take a look at www.linuxiso.org
> i will however still have access to the internet while working so that is
> good- incase i need help
> i guess the bottom line is can you help me configure a good server for about
> $1000 that will also
> be an investment for later on?
Just any personal computer will work, you can add on things later on. Just
avoid those compact machines from Compaq.
> do you think a dsl line will be powerful enough or should i just stick to
> what web hosts offer. security is also an issue.
I thuink you can manage with dsl and the update programs that comes with the
installation sees to you don't have bugs and of course enable an iptable rule
(you usualy select how hard security at install) to use, which keeps unwanted
people out.
> Say No More :) - you had me with "I would choose" from your last reply.
> I was actually thinking about this last night. i do remember reading
> something about 0/1 I am just not sure where i read it - does access have
> something like a(-1/0 for if statments)? i think i remember something about
> that to.
> thank you for not only helping me but for also sharing what you know.
I'm sorry, don't use access so don't know, but it can be used in any database
that uses sql.
With best regards,
Aho
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