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Posted by J.O. Aho on 10/14/23 11:49
Frankly wrote:
> I dont know if the "if you dare" was a warning that it is beyond me.
No, it's not a warning, but I have noticed that microsoft users are less
willing to try out other things compared with say macos users.
> I want full control over what PHP and mysql versions I can have and it looks
> like that is the only way.
> http://www-8.ibm.com/servers/eserver/in/xseries/x206m/
> cnet gave it pretty good reviews.
Of course buying a server with Linux preinstalled would give you a machine you
can use at once, but I think you can get things cheaper by setting together
your own machine and if you have enough old stuff that you can reassemble into
a computer you will have saved all the $700.
I think there are a couple of companies who sells machines with preinstalled
Linux on them, all over in US, here in Europe they refuse.
> I have 2 tutorials for Unix and have looked at them. but with out a machine
> to work on they are pretty useless.
> I would love something like what you mentioned in another post. that will
> helpe me keep my mysql, php and other things up todate.
up2date is a tool for RedHat/Fedora, but there are similar tools for other
distros too, for Gentoo it's built into it's package manager.
> Trustix looks like it may be easier - but my guess is as bad as any other
> total newbie that has only used windows.
It's based on RedHat, with a good deal of extra like buffer out of range
protection in the compiler, SELinux kernel (NSA made some kernel patches to
make the kernel more secure).
> Thank you and the rest of the group for being so patient with me. I think
> you have some idea of how little I know. what set up would you recommend.
> because i dont know what I need with what and what cancells out something
> else. i think you would have no problem with the IBM server i mentioned
> above but what do i get with it? i am willing to try this server thing
> because I feel that it will only put me back 1 week. that is just a total
> guess. but when I am done I will have full control and pic what I want to
> use.
Almost every distro that you can find at www.distrowatch.com will include
MySQL, PHP and Apache as part of the packages that is included on the CDs/DVD,
one exception I think is Linspear and is far from a distro I would recommend.
I don't know what IBM does offer in their server packages, can be better to
call them and ask.
> i notice you posted in alt.linux but for some reason my news server
> doesnt show that group.
Thats a bit sad, as IMHO it's one of the better newsgroups that isn't tied to
a distro, but you can still use the google for accessing the newsgroup at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.linux?lnk=gschg
> i would like to try this but what gets me very nervous is that maybe it is
> beyond me. with all the help you have already given me i still dont know
> what to get.
I would suggest you use an old computer and use it to play with Linux until
you either feel you are ready to use it or that you feel that you can't leave
microsoft, this way you won't waste money (or at least not much).
Another option if you just want to try out Linux, is to use a LiveCD, as it
won't need any installation, here is a list of different LiveCD distros (and a
bunch of rescue CDs too) you can pick from: http://www.livecdlist.com/index.php
Which one is the best I don't know, but knoppix is one of the popular ones.
//Aho
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