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Posted by Frankly on 06/06/06 16:16

"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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> Frankly wrote:
>
>> I dont know if the "if you dare" was a warning that it is beyond me.
>
> No, it's not a warning, but I have noticed that microsoft users are less
> willing to try out other things compared with say macos users.

I must admit that MS does offer the kind of setting I feel comfortable with.
however i have always wished I could get into linux. I just never had
anyone I can talk to.
I am willing to look into tutorials but even the best student needs feed
back.

>
>
>> I want full control over what PHP and mysql versions I can have and it
>> looks like that is the only way.
>> http://www-8.ibm.com/servers/eserver/in/xseries/x206m/
>> cnet gave it pretty good reviews.
>
> Of course buying a server with Linux preinstalled would give you a machine
> you can use at once, but I think you can get things cheaper by setting
> together your own machine and if you have enough old stuff that you can
> reassemble into a computer you will have saved all the $700.
> I think there are a couple of companies who sells machines with
> preinstalled Linux on them, all over in US, here in Europe they refuse.

the 2 desk tops i have i need. my wife uses 1 and this one is new and
pretty beefed up because i wanted to
play Call of Duty II. Funny thing is that i have not played that game or
anyother since starting this whole thing.
i dont think my 1998 lap top can handle being a server.

>
> Almost every distro that you can find at www.distrowatch.com will include
> MySQL, PHP and Apache as part of the packages that is included on the
> CDs/DVD, one exception I think is Linspear and is far from a distro I
> would recommend.

i noticed that the mostly come with version 3 & 4 mysql. i am wondering if
it would be easier to update
mysql then to install it.

>
> I don't know what IBM does offer in their server packages, can be better
> to call them and ask.

i hate the fact that you must talk to a sales person to get a price. I
wouldnt even know what to ask.
the only thing I know is that it must have high and quality ram and of
course storage space.

>
>
>> i notice you posted in alt.linux but for some reason my news server
>> doesnt show that group.
>
> Thats a bit sad, as IMHO it's one of the better newsgroups that isn't tied
> to a distro, but you can still use the google for accessing the newsgroup
> at http://groups.google.com/group/alt.linux?lnk=gschg

that is how i found your post. if i change my isp to get a static IP
perhaps I will then get linux.
I am looking into earthlink butttttt $69 a month. i do know there is
something out there that will let me work with a dynamic IP but never looked
into it in detail. right now between my host and my dsl i am spending 30 a
month.

>
>
>> i would like to try this but what gets me very nervous is that maybe it
>> is beyond me. with all the help you have already given me i still dont
>> know what to get.
>
> I would suggest you use an old computer and use it to play with Linux
> until you either feel you are ready to use it or that you feel that you
> can't leave microsoft, this way you won't waste money (or at least not
> much).

time is money. to tell you the truth with the prices of MS I dont know if i
can afford it.
and I would like to be able to connect to those databases where I place ads.

>
> Another option if you just want to try out Linux, is to use a LiveCD, as
> it won't need any installation, here is a list of different LiveCD distros
> (and a bunch of rescue CDs too) you can pick from:
> http://www.livecdlist.com/index.php
>
> Which one is the best I don't know, but knoppix is one of the popular
> ones.
>
>
> //Aho

right now I am once again feeling this is way over my head. but if one day
my wife hires helpers they will need computers
and i think we will need a server anyway. i feel like I can do this but
this is such a total guess. I am looking to do things you and others have
studied so hard and so long to do and here I am wanting to have toys like
the big boys and do things like the big boys with money to buy little toys.
I wish i knew what would happen if i did get my own server. I wish i knew
how stable the versions of mysql are that web hosts offer. i would feel
safest with the mysql hosting plan as far as having an older and more stable
version. but what happens if later on i want to change hosts how hard will
it be to import the database of another version. I also like the GUI mysql
offers with their plan.
Q. What version of MySQL is supported?

A. MySQL Hosting supports the latest production release of MySQL; 4.0.20.

i feel if i have version 5.0 that my site will have less trouble and be
easier to me to maintain.

another thing is - i think i am afraid to fail at this. or that it will just
take way to long. lol it already has.

Frank

 

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