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Posted by Tony Marston on 08/07/06 11:41
"Shelly" <sheldonlg.news@asap-consult.com> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> Tony Marston wrote:
>>> Some standards just aren't worth following. They are not examples of
>>> "the best there is" but "the best that we can do". I've quit jobs rather
>>> than work with their primitive standards. More than once.
>>>
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>> And you wouldn't last on any of the projects I've been on - or those of
>> any other professional project manager I know. You also wouldn't last
>> long with any of the companies I've consulted for.
>>
>> But that's OK - they don't need argumentative dinosaurs, anyway.
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> Along with this idea I want to state the following as one who has looked
> for work and who has hired people to work for me.
>
> Let us suppose, just for the sake of argument, that Tony is correct in his
> opinion. Would I hire him to work for me? The answer is an unequivocal
> "no". Why do I say this? I say this because:
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> (a) I want people who are willing to adapt to new ideas
New ideas, yes, but not *bad* ideas. The mixed use of case in the manner you
describe leads to obfuscated and unmaintainable code. Check out item 21 on
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmainnaming.html for another person's opinion.
> (b) I want people who are willing to listen to the ideas of others and
> adapt them as their own if they are better
Better, yes, worse, no.
> (c) I want people who are willing to use the ideas of others, even if they
> disagree with them, if the project calls for it.
I do not perpetuate bad ideas. I would rather resign that produce
unmaintanable crap. And I have. Twice.
> (d) I want people who LISTEN to what others are saying about the errors of
> the arguments they are presenting and not ignore them or distort them.
Just like you have been distorting my arguments?
> but most of all, since most software project are composed of many
> programmers,
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> (e) I want people who understand what a TEAM is, and not insult others
> when their ideas differ from their own.
Like the way you have been insultng me because I dare express an opinion
which is different from your own?
> I would NEVER hire someone like Tony -- and if I did then, unlike Tony, I
> would quickly admit my mistake and show him the door.
If would have to be the toilet door, as working with standards like yours
would want to make me throw up.
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
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