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Re: Server-side XForms processing with PHP

Posted by Jeff North on 10/17/06 01:00

On 12 Oct 2006 10:53:33 -0700, in comp.lang.php jazzslider@gmail.com
<1160675613.215906.210320@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote:

>| I have a headache.
>|
>| I've done a LOT of research lately into XForms, and I am thoroughly
>| convinced that a good implementation of this technology would help me
>| immensely in converting my department's paper forms into interactive
>| online systems.
>|
>| There are a couple of problems I'm facing that I'm hoping someone here
>| could help with. Number one: browser support for XForms is pitiful,

Agree.

>| and I can't expect my target audience to download plugins/extensions

They just have to, until XForms functionality is build into every
browser.

>| and the like. Number two: JavaScript is my Achilles heel, and I don't
>| have the first clue about Java, yet every workable XForms
>| implementation I've ever found uses some combination or other of those
>| technologies. The Java problem is compounded by the fact that I'm not
>| in control of my own server; I don't believe I have permission to
>| install Java code (the server people haven't answered that question
>| yet), even if I DID know how to use it.

The users browser need to have a java plugin. The server doesn't need
this plugin.

>| So...this means implementations like Chiba and Orbeon are out of the
>| question, and although FormFaces is good JavaScript (that I don't have
>| to look at :D), it's WAY too slow for the forms I'm trying to use it
>| for. I've also played around with AjaxForms since it only actually
>| requires Java on the development machine, but it's incorrectly
>| implementing several crucial XForms specs.

Each implementation I've looked at so far, is at various stages of
development.

Also I wouldn't rely on Javascript. It has it's own inbuild security
i.e. can't write to local files.

>| Does anyone here know of a good server-side XForms engine written in
>| pure PHP (no Java)?

XForms is a browser function. You can use PHP to generate the form but
it is the browser that needs to render and act upon the xhtml code.

>| It's fine by me if it generates
>| DHTML/JavaScript/etc. so long as I don't have to write the JavaScript
>| myself...I realize some kind of client scripting is necessary to make
>| the coolest stuff in XForms work; I just don't want to have to write it
>| myself.
>|
>| Alternatively...I've heard good things about UGO + DENG, a Flash-based
>| XForms system...the only problem with that is that the website
>| responsible for that project doesn't seem to be working.

but the user will need to install the Flash player plugin for their
browser :-)

"and I can't expect my target audience to download plugins/extensions"
>| I really need some help with this, even if only to be told that
what
>| I'm looking for doesn't exist yet.
>|
>| Thank you all very much for any help you can offer!

If you want something that 'works' try Microsoft Infopath. It's very
similar to XForms (but then again, users need applications installed
on their machines to run this).

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX010857921033.aspx
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