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Posted by Koncept on 11/01/06 19:44
In article <3GW1h.401$q06.166@newsfe04.lga>, Steve <no.one@example.com>
wrote:
> | "The snake that cannot shed its skin perishes. So do the spirits who are
> | prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be a
> pirit." -Nietzsche
>
> | *Answer*
> | If the apple were capable of formulating opinion in the first place,
> | then to lose such a noble quality would certainly make the apple less
> | distinguished amongst its peers;
>
> in what ways would it be less distinguished? doesn't this presuppose as a
> foregone conclusion that to *be* an apple, it must emote opinion?
>
> | however, considering that the apple
> | never had such talent, it will simply continue to maintain its status
> | as an object neither capable of opinion, nor of spiritual nature.
>
> others may take your dismissal of the possible spirituality of nature - even
> that of an apple - as a terribly imprompto assumption. either way, being
> prevented from changing an opinion does not change the nature of the apple
> itself were it able to formulate them. so, a snake may very well die if it
> fails to shed its skin; it does not necessitate logically that a spirit not
> able to, or prevented from, doing something/anything part of its nature
> somehow removes the natural component altogether. the spirit remains a
> spirit...as the apple is still an apple.
>
> perhaps it is the fault of the translator rather than an illogical oversight
> of neitzsche. where neitzsche consistent in his analogy and compared the
> *death* of the spirit to the *perishing* of a snake, it would not be
> illogical as it would be comparing two kinds of death - the first, literal;
> the second, a deminished quality of life. as it is, he is comparing the
> literal death of a snake to the alteration of the nature of a spirit
> (assumably who MUST emote opinion) into some other form of being.
>
> simply put...if a human is defined as such because of his ability to see,
> can i take his eyes and make him non-human. or, if he must be social yet i
> exile him to a desserted island...is he not still human? to be human is
> merely to be engineered as such. neitzsche has engineered a spirit that can
> hold opinion, but has sadly killed it off when no such requirement was
> warranted.
>
> | Truth be told, I'd still eat it regardless!
>
> me too ;^)
>
>
Steve. I've got to say that I dig your style! I'm contemplating
changing my NG name to "spiritual apple" now.
--
Koncept <<
"The snake that cannot shed its skin perishes. So do the spirits who are
prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be a spirit." -Nietzsche
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