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Posted by Osiris on 12/13/06 22:57
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:21:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>Osiris wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:34:01 -0000, Jim Logajan <JamesL@Lugoj.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>nobody@nowhere.invalid (Peter Boosten) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Osiris <nono@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>time for a Joomla newsgroup !
>>>>>support the initiative on news.groups and nl.newsgroups.
>>>>>
>>>>>search there with keyword "joomla" and give your opinion, with solid
>>>>>arguments.
>>>>
>>>>What's wrong with their forum?
>>>>
>>>>http://forum.joomla.org/
>>>
>>>It appears to be the rough equivalent of a moderated Usenet forum, since
>>>the owner/operator of the web forum can edit posts, remove posts, or
>>>blacklist posters.
>>>
>>>An unmoderated Usenet forum would be operating with a different set of
>>>ground rules that provides almost no centralized editorial control of
>>>content.
>>>
>>>The two types of forums would therefore appear to have some complementary
>>>aspects (assuming the Usenet group is kept unmoderated) and some
>>>competitive aspects. E.g: Usenet group too "noisy" - go to the Joomla.org
>>>forum; Joomla.org forum too restrictive - go to the Usenet newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> Of course, the choice between the two solutions is a false dilemma.
>> The situation is not one of XOR, but of AND, for the programmers
>> amongst us.
>>
>> A feature of a forum is, e.g. that it can be extremely difficult to
>> get in: yesterday I spent about 15 minutes to get into joomla.org
>> forum. Really ! and I'm no novice on the WWW !
>> The sea of id's and passwords I have for all the forums I have been
>> to, you would not believe. I regularly forget one... nuisance, and the
>> veru faint smell of elitism...
>>
>> Probably a forum is good for a smaller group of developers, but the
>> regular user, encountering a problem, wants the speed and prliferation
>> of Usenet.
>> I think Usenet can contribute significantly in the spreading of the
>> Word, by just being there and being easy to find.
>>
>> Also the centralization of the diiscussions on Usenet, versus the
>> miriad of Joomla forums (every Tom, Dick and Harry....), would be
>> beneficial.
>>
>
>What took you so long? I can sign up for their forum in under 5 minutes
>- less than three minutes if I don't count the time waiting for the
>authorization email.
I can get on to a usenet group in under 30 seconds.... No return
e-mails, no passwords, no hassle...
Not every Tom, Dick and Harry putting a forum up... centralized..
>
>And yes, it is a case of either/or. People are not going to post the
>same information to both the forum and usenet. They'll post it to the
>forum and that's all.
Ummmmm, that is an XOR after all ....
>
>But this is the wrong place to try to drum up support, anyway. You
>should be trying to get it on the Joomla forums. But I see you've done
>that - with, so far, a distinct lack of interest from the Joomla community.
mmm, does that sound a teeny little bit hostile ?
You're a forum operator ?
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