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 Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 01/15/07 20:44 
On 15 Jan 2007 17:08:41 GMT, PerfectReign 
<perfectreign@xr4ti.tinfoilcat.com> wrote: 
 
>Um, says the guy with the Flash website? 
 
Flash, specifically used in my web form: LAMP FX is the be all and end 
all solution to web design...at least at present.  Java and to a 
lesser extent VB is the ONLY real POSSIBLE contender (although at 
present both of those don't even come close to matching what Flash can 
do). 
 
Check out my undefeatable list: 
 
 1.   support of 32 bit JPEGs 
 
 2. fully cross operating system compatible 
 
 3. fully cross browser compatible 
 
 4. support of the On2 VP6 codec 
 
 5. support of color matrices 
 
 6. support of audio spectrum analysis 
 
 7. support of alpha transparent video 
 
 8. fully cross browser support of alpha transparent PNG files 
(possible with a bunch of extra Javascript
even then though there are 
compatibility issues) 
 
 9. ability to track the number of bytes loaded on a particular object 
 
10. the ability to dynamically control the loading of media files 
(could be done in Javascript but not as easily and less efficiently) 
 
11. direct connection to ports with the ability to talk directly 
with a particular protocols language 
 
12. ability to analyze and manipulate image pixel data in a whole 
variety of ways. (only Java is comparable in that respect) 
 
13. ability to stop a media file from being loaded during the loading 
process 
 
14. ability to control the resizing of elements, being able to turn on 
and off smoothing for specific elements and making use of bilinear and 
bicubic resampling. (can be done with a combination of PHP and 
javascript, but it less cross browser compatible and uses 10 times the 
amount of server resources and is about 700% slower, even with server 
side image caching.) 
 
15. fully custom cursors (can be done with SOME versions of IE using 
CSS, but even then yer limited to cur files and cant use larger 
images) 
 
16. custom context menus 
 
17. custom scroll bars 
 
18. FIFTY TIMES FASTER than javascript 
 
19. custom video/audio controls (can be done ~somewhat~ with 
javascript but ONLY with certain browsers like IE
and even then with 
only about half the functionality that you can get with Flash, like 
you cant track how much has been loaded/streamed and you cant track 
the play positioning) 
 
20. direct support, creation and control over vector based graphics 
 
Theres TWENTY different things that can ONLY be done with Flash. 
Theres a couple that ~sorta~ can be done without it
but only if you 
want to make your sites so that they only function on Internet 
Explorer
and even then you cant get ALL the functionality that Flash 
offers. 
 
Even for just a PLAIN TEXT site my form is VASTLY superior to using 
HTML and CSS; mostly cause you can use embedded fonts, you can have 
liquid sizable text as opposed to just liquid space stretched text and 
you get proper font antialiasing in Flash. 
 
The ONLY reason for NOT using my form...is deficiency and ignorance. 
Unless of course you'd like to try and claim that there's something 
ANOTHER form could do that mine can't...LOL...sometimes I get a kick 
out of asking the impossible from the lessers.  ^_^ 
 
>Seriously, never bag on another's abilities. That makes you appear like 
>you're trying to compensate for something you're lacking. 
 
The only thing I'm lacking is people who can formulate a counter 
argument to my form. 
 
>Oh, and for the record, Mara's websites are pleasing to the eye, 
 
Oh yes, shit brown is *SO* very pleasing to the eye. 
 
>functional, 
 
Not really...in fact functional wise on her main site is 
just...horrible.  She has plain text links that don't even look like 
links (she took off the underlining) and the only indication that they 
are links is that there's a color change when you roll the mouse 
over...which is just plainly fucking retarded because then you have to 
roll the gawd damn mouse over EVERY piece of text, trying to find out 
what is and what isn't a link.  Furthermore, it's quite common for 
sites to put their navigation bars up at the top, the first thing 
people are gonna do is start tryin to click on that text at the top, 
thinkin that's the nav.  There's also no real description of what the 
site is offering, the first thing that pops up is crappy examples of 
work that she's done...normally you would want to list those in a 
SEPARATE section.  The FIRST thing that should come up with a welcome 
type screen that tells visitors what the hell it is you're offering 
and a brief description as to WHY they should choose YOUR business 
over someone else's.  Then you should have another section that goes 
into more details about what it is you're offering and why it's 
superior to what others are offering. 
 
>spartan 
 
No, THIS is spartan: 
http://www.csszengarden.com/ 
(seems to be down at the moment, but it should be back up later) 
 
Mara's site: 
http://www.helloworldwebdesign.com/ 
Is just plain DEFICIENCY of style.  Not having a style doesn't mean 
that you have a minimalist style, it just means YOU DON'T HAVE A 
FUCKING STYLE, ya fuckin retard. 
 
>and CSS compliant. 
 
Which means nothing.  Adhering to the W3Cs RECOMMENDATIONS in NO WAY 
equates to cross browser or cross operating system compatibility...in 
fact what's interesting is that all to often the MOST compatible 
methods are the most rejected methods by the W3C and the MOST 
INCOMPATIBLE methods are the most ACCEPTED methods by the W3C.  Simply 
put, anyone who puts a lot of stock into adhering to the W3Cs line of 
stupidity is an IDIOT. 
 
>Oh - and they don't require some 
>fucked up third party plugin. 
 
The Flash plugin is now required for a good 70% of all the content 
available online.  And saying it's "third party" makes about as much 
sense as saying that Firefox is "third party" in that it didn't come 
prepackaged with Windows.  Coincidentally child, Flash *IS* 
prepackaged with most all modern browsers...so yer full of shit again. 
^_^ 
 
Oh hey...if you haven't already (don't worry, yer slow, I'm sure it 
takes time to catch up)...feel stupid now!   `, ) 
 
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Onideus Mad Hatter 
mhm ¹ x ¹ 
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http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog 
 
 
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