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Re: Ha! They come back cryin'

Posted by tonnie on 03/08/07 14:02

Richard Formby schreef:
> Big Bill wrote:
> doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>>> But generally, to make a site from scratch today with
>>> transitional either suggests a lack of experience or confidence
>>> or a special rare good reason.
>> I have a special good reason; I don't wanna!
>
> Let us assume that your statement indicates you still use deprecated font,
> center and other such elements, and possibly tables for layout and all the
> other nasties, as these are the usual reasons to use transitional as against
> strict and still be able to validate.
>
> The following comments apply *exactly* to the difference between the two
> sites Adrienne has brought to our attention:
>
> I had a sit down with client the other day, to discuss the new site I
> started to build for her while ago[1]. She had changed her mind, as I knew
> she would[2]:
>
> Client: "I don't what that left hand menu with square boxes around the links
> anymore, I want a nice buttony nav bar at the top like my favourite singers
> web site and I dont like the gradient anymore and you were right we need a
> "headerish" thing and I want a new logo and *how* to I get listed at the top
> of google?"
>
> Took me nine minutes, in front of client and over a coffee, to change *all*
> of the presentational stuff[3], move the menu, change the colours, create
> the "header", the nice gradients on the nav bar, the colours and balance of
> the text/background. All in front of her. To her satisfaction. Almost no
> change at all to the HTML/CMS. Mostly simple CSS stuff.
>
> Client: "Crikey. That would have taken [other web drezigner] hours to do.
>
> But it took us another whole hour to redsign the logo to her satisfaction.
> Art, not mechanics.
>
> We are still working on the google thing[4].
>
> [1] http://australistrees.com.au/old/ (obsolete)
> [2] Women do that...
> [3] http://australistrees.com.au/ (may not validate, still in draft)
> [4] This is a CMS site. She enters the content, I am gradually teaching her
> how to enter google friendly content.

[4]

Why a cms? Total overkill as it looks now. Use the time to teach her how
to place content in HTML!


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