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Re: How to apply a class to input type=file

Posted by Mike Minor on 04/03/07 12:36

"al jones" <alfredmjones@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3w4omi2obsxa$.j4k94v91w9of$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:40:23 GMT, Mike Minor wrote:
>
>> Sorry I'm so STUPID!
>>
>> I thought news groups were for asking questions...with responses like
>> these
>> it's a wonder any body bothers.
>>
>> And by the way, I have been studying Yukka's web site to try and pick up
>> some tips. It's a nice and helpful site. Too bad his attitude comes
>> across
>> so negatively when he responds to questions here. He doesn't have any
>> insight into what my superiors have asked me to do and what I'm trying to
>> accomplish. He just puts it down to my supidity.
>>
>> Now that I think of it, he reminds me of a professor I had my freshman
>> year
>> of college. His VERY FIRST statment he made to our class was, "I don't
>> answer questions." My first thought was, "then what the hell good are you
>> as
>> a teacher."
>>
>> In my humble opinion, if he can't say something helpful, he should just
>> not
>> respond. I am so sick and tired of the holy-er than thou attitudes I see
>> so
>> often here.......
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote in message
>> news:y49Qh.29145$et1.3568@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>> Scripsit Mike Minor:
>>>
>>>> I'm using CSS to modify the appearance submit buttons on various
>>>> pages.
>>>
>>> That's generally counter-productive, since you increase the odds that
>>> they
>>> won't be recognized as submit buttons. You also tend to get crappy
>>> results
>>> e.g. on Windows XP, which has rather nice default appearance for submit
>>> buttons but easily turns to a crude rectangle when you start "styling"
>>> it.
>>>
>>> So my primary advice on the problem is that you should stop creating it.
>>>
>>>> On one page I have an <input type="file"> line which
>>>> automatically includes a BROWSE button.
>>>
>>> That's strange enough to many users, even without any further
>>> obfuscation.
>>> Many people don't understand what file submission is. They _might_ know
>>> that if they see a _familiar-looking_ file input widget. It seems that
>>> you
>>> are aiming at preventing that.
>>>
>>>> I add the class="button" to the input type="file" line.
>>>
>>> Well, OK, that doesn't do anything, as such.
>>>
>>>> However, it doesn't apply the button's
>>>> appearance doesn't change.
>>>
>>> Did you expect it to change? Why?
>>>
>>>> Instead it applys the appearance changes
>>>> to the text input box.
>>>
>>> I suspect you have some style sheet, and I pretty much know that you
>>> have
>>> errors in it.
>>>
>>> When you searched for an answer in the group archives before posting,
>>> did
>>> you _really_ miss all those helpful "please specify the URL" or "tell us
>>> the URL unless you want just waste everyone's time" notes?
>>>
>>>> Sorry, but the site is not up on the web yet, so I can't post a link
>>>> for you to see it yet.`
>>>
>>> That's a _lame_ excuse. You can always upload a demo page.
>>>
>>>> What I have tried is the following:
>>>>
>>>> <input type=file size=77 name="FILE1" class="button">
>>>
>>> Well, that much was obvious from previous, except for irrelevant details
>>> like the name and size attribute values. Just the rest remains hidden.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
>>> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
>
> Mike,
> For what it's worth Jukka's probably one of the more helpful people here -
> just not the most diplomatic. You asked a question - and rather than
> getting the answer you wanted, you were told that it probably wasn't the
> best thing to try to do - with reasons (and, hey, you DID get reasons!)
>
> I won't re-iterate the others comments about following convention, you
> didn't and got the flack for it. Different groups, different conventions
> just like 'real life'.
>
> I will say that you first comment is *DEAD WRONG* (I thought news groups
> were for asking questions...) news groups - at least most of the technical
> news groups *I* inhabit - are for discussion. One *can* get help but
> these
> are *NOT* your own private help desk. I've asked come really dumb
> questions and gotten some really helpful information - and sometimes the
> two even seemed to be related ... that said, take a chill pill, take a
> look at what you're trying to do and see if maybe Jukkas response wasn't
> what you needed.
>
> On the topic of superiors asking you to do something - if it's
> counterproductive are you really going to stand back and let them pressure
> you into doing it (I know, it's a paycheck) when it would be in their
> better interests to try to educate them as to *why* this isn't the best
> idea....
>
> --
> //al

>
> I won't re-iterate the others comments about following convention, you
> didn't and got the flack for it. Different groups, different conventions
> just like 'real life'.
>

OK where are the "conventions" posted for this newsgroup so ol' stupid here
doesn't offend someone in the future....

"Stupid" Mike

 

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