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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 07/02/05 15:57
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:35:17 GMT, Oli Filth <catch@olifilth.co.uk>
wrote:
>Onideus Mad Hatter said the following on 02/07/2005 03:06:
>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:20:36 GMT, Oli Filth <catch@olifilth.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Is that so?
>>
>>
>>>Pretty much:
>>>http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/2165061
>>
>> 2002
>>
>>>http://www.traffick.com/article.asp?aID=102
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>> 2002
>>
>>>http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/meta-tags-optimization.html#description-meta-tag
>>
>> 2004...
>
>Yes, hence Richard saying "for years".
>
>Do you not remember a time (roughly pre-2000 or so) when you could type
>practically anything into a search engine like "buzz lightyear", and be
>guaranteed to get a whole host of porn sites and scam sites in the
>listings as well, cos they had put thousands of common and/or
>proprietary terms into their keywords description? Notice how that
>doesn't happen anymore? Why do you think that is?
>
>
>> Seriously d00d, is this really all the better you could find? I mean
>> fer fuck sake *I* could find you better sources to back yer shit up
>> and I'm the opposing side! o_O
>>
>>
>>>If I'm not mistaken, that's your *description* tag it's listing, not
>>>your *keywords* tag?
>>
>>
>> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:TP-I_zSyzh8J:www.backwater-productions.net/+Backwater+Productions&hl=en
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>> Seems to have cached the whole fuckin thing actually.
>
>Did you expect it to remove stuff from your HTML before caching it?
>
>
>>>However, either way, this discussion is rather academic if your page
>>>contains no content other than Javascript-generated, as your chances of
>>>being ranked are virtually zero, I would imagine.
>>
>>
>> ...OMG what are you fucking stupid? I mean, d00d...PAY ATTENTION!
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Backwater+Productions
>> It's right the fuck up there at the top! o_O
>
>And that disproves my last statement how?
>
>
>> WE ARE NUMBER ONE!!1!
>
>Congratulations for being the number one result for a search term which
>is your own website name.
>
>Seeing as it's a fairly bizarre combination of words (when would someone
>normally type "backwater productions" into a SE?), and all the other
>results seem to be your signature in news-group posts, I'd guess that
>it's not time to crack open the champagne yet.
>
>
>>>Actual page content and appropriate HTML markup are increasingly
>>>becoming the most important factors in search-engine results.
>>
>>
>> Actually though, you're quite wrong. Search engine rankings often has
>> more to do with the URL than it does anything. Seriously, run a
>> search and pay attention to all the URLs, you'll notice it right
>> quick, they even bold face them. ^_^
>>
>
>You could well be right. But that's not a lot of help in the majority of
>cases, e.g. "Backwater Productions". Unless the search terms are
>"Backwater" and "Productions", this fact isn't going to help!
Searching just for the term "Backwater" my site turns up at the top of
page 8...not bad considering the lot of you seem to think Google
ignores meta tags and all the content is in an iframe. Basically by
the lot of your sides arguments my site shouldn't show up AT ALL and
yet, huh, it does.
Oh, btw, what you were talkin about, with the sex sites, that actually
had nothing to do with meta tags at all, it had everything to do with
doing shit like this:
Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz
Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear,
and then matching the font color to like your background. It stopped
though after search engines started ignoring duplicate words and such.
Plus the major driving factor in Google's searches now a days is
simple traffic. Like let's say 5,000,000 searches were run on the
word "Backwater" and the vast majority of those search queries
resulted in hits to my site via Google, my site ranking would go up
higher. That's also the reason that mainstream corp websites usually
get top ranking. It has nothing to do with the code nor content on
their site, it has everything to do wit the sheer volume of hits.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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