|  | Posted by Agix on 05/09/07 22:39 
On 9 May, 19:47, Ben C <spams...@spam.eggs> wrote:> On 2007-05-09, Agix <ignoranceisbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > > HI there,
 >
 > > I am fairly new to web coding, not so new I don't know what tags are
 > > or anything that basic, but new enough to be frustrated by obstacles
 > > that trying to use multiple browsers is causing and not knowing the
 > > way round it.
 >
 > > Here I must stress I AM NOT LOOKING for workarounds or fixes or hacks
 > > per s?, but more for an explanation of why I see this behaviour -  my
 > > experienced friend coder doesn't seem to understand my plight.
 >
 > > I have even include a link to the offending page
 > >http://www.clarifysolutions.co.uk/certenroll/
 > [...]
 > > If you take a look at particularly "#mainpageset" this is a div tag
 > > container for the entire page contents. It has it's width set to
 > > 560px.
 >
 > > Notice how I have set EVERY id and class to have margin AND padding =
 > > 0px. This is so I can work out how the browser is behaving.
 >
 > > Secondly, take note of "#mainpagecont" and "#adbarright" - 400px and
 > > 160px respectively in width.
 >
 > > If you take a look at the link in Firefox - it renders ok, but messes
 > > up a fair bit.
 >
 > What's wrong with it?
 >
 > > In IE6+7 it looks plain awful. What I am really annoyed about is that
 > > the two divs, no margins or paddings but they still overlap!!!!
 > > Correct me if i'm wrong but - 400px + 160 px = 560px , no?!?!?! Why
 > > does the browser not follow mathematics?
 >
 > Firefox is following mathematics OK here.
 >
 > 400px + 160px + 2px + 2px = 564px.
 >
 > Each 2px is for the left and right borders of mainpagecont and
 > adbarright.
 
 Thank you thank you thank you thank you.
 
 I was just being ignorant about the browsers including the borders in
 their calculations. Explains the dodgy look in IE as well.
 
 I will bear that in mind for future designs.
 
 Although do the browsers include a border calculation if there is not
 one? or do they just sit flush together?
 
 many thanks again
 
 Gregory
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