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Posted by Neredbojias on 05/29/07 08:45
On Mon, 28 May 2007 07:05:47 GMT dorayme scribed:
>> You've implied that names are "special" and somehow exempt from the
>> normal-word rule of having to be capitalized at the beginnings of
>> sentences. You've offered no progression of logic nor presented no
>> valid reference that led you specifically to such a belief, special
>> or not. Furthermore, since the logic of a false conclusion is
>> requisitely false, I stated so with a clear conscience.
>>
>
> You just keep babbling in this uncontrolled way! Look at the
> things I have said about names, _pretend_ they are coming from
> someone you respect just to see whether my words mean something
> different then. Valid references indeed! You scholar you!
Whoa thare! -Respect? What makes you think that there's anyone in the
world I respect more than you? Sure, we sometimes don't agree; in fact
we may disagree quite often, but do you really believe I'd waste my time
bothering to correct some anomalous person whom I didn't care about in
the first place, -i.e., didn't respect? Not hardly.
(Yes, the "to correct" was a joke. The point, however, wasn't.)
But what's wrong with valid references? You use them in html, don't
you? Then why not in your predominant language?
>> >> Names are simply proper nouns which follow the rules of grammar in
>> >> much the same fashion as other nouns.
>> >
>> > In spite of the fact I pointed to? That it is normal for a common
>> > noun to be capitalised when starting a sentence but not when not
>> > whereas a name like "John" remains capitalised.
>>
>> How does this fact in any way support your premise? You are trying
>> to state that since proper nouns are always capitalized, certain
>> other words can always be non-capitalized.
>
> "certain other words"? I was saying nothing of the sort. I was
> saying that one and the same word, a proper name, does not follow
> the same rules of grammar as say a common noun and that this is
> plain to see in some respects.
Okay, proper nouns and common nouns follow different rules of grammar
(-presumably related to capitalization), and this difference is
sometimes apparent. Now how do you get from there to the belief that
one may allowably _not_ capitalize certain words at the beginnings of
sentences?
>> Even if the conclusion were true, which it isn't, the general
>> capitalization of proper nouns has absolutely nothing to do with your
>> aversion.
>
> My aversion has nothing to do with this. It is your misguided
> slavish wooden grammatical habits that are in question.
I am overly-rigid for following the rules?
> I am not
> responsible for my name, but having it, I will honour it and
> defend it against irreverent disrespectful babblers like you. I
> have just called up officer White to come and get some stern
> instructions from me.
What? You were given the name "dorayme" by your parents at birth? If
that's the case, I'd simply chalk it up to a woefully whopping whoops
and change my name to something reasonable like "Sally" or "Gertrude" or
"Hortense". Just make sure that whatever you choose starts with a
capital letter and your problem will be solved.
--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.
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