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Posted by Neredbojias on 07/29/07 09:17
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:51:14
GMT Chaddy2222 scribed:
> On Jul 29, 5:02 pm, Neredbojias <monstersquas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007
>> 04:22:06 GMT Onideus Mad Hatter scribed:
>>
>> > The W3C's doc types are meant more as general guidelines than
>> > anything, they try to promote good programming practices, but
>> > really, if you're going to use an HTML based code you need to
>> > actually check and make sure that each element not only works on
>> > ALL major browsers but that it also works on ALL major browsers on
>> > ALL major operating systems...of course, why bother with that
>> > stupidity when you can simply code your sites in Flash, which takes
>> > all the guess work out of it.
>>
>> I actually somewhat agree with your opinion here, but the trouble
>> with Flash is that it (often) limits the visitor's ability to control
>> it - much like javascript did in the dog days. I generally cringe
>> when I randomly hit a Flash site and am surprised if it happens not
>> to do anything I don't want it to do.
>>
> Hmmm well yes, I could see Hatters point as well. But until Flash has
> a way of becomeing more accessible (by users with adaptive
> technology) I probably won't be designing entire websites with it. In
> a lot of cases good old HTML with some CSS for styleing works fine and
> means you end up with a site with a consistent look and feel, even if
> that "look" is not quite the same in all browsing environments.
> The thing is though, even if the site does look the same in all
> browsers (as in all visual browsers) through the use of flash, then it
> still means that it won't work for those of us useing aural browsers
> (so some kind of alternative still needs to be provided.
> This means that you then need to update two sites with the same
> content, which is why I like the CSS method, as you can keep all the
> visual style seprat from the rest of the content makeing it easier for
> SE bots and screen readers and visitors to access the content. This
> also means that all visual
> branding is kept in tact.
> --
> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz
Yes, you make many good points. I think the conclusion is that Flash has
to be improved, as does html/css, etc. -And the browsers. It's just
that sometimes I get a little sick of all the things that _don't_ work
under "normal" html auspices. Yesterday I found a beauty of a bug in
Firefox. Reload a page of thumbs and the first one disappears... Oh,
I'm sure there are conditions. I think the thumb has to be bigger than a
certain size, and perhaps centering plays a part, but it's definitely a
bug - for something as simple as that. (Probably relates to the cache
because it only happens online.) Geesh, will they ever get it right?
--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.
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