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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 09/19/07 11:15
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> So you profess a belief in no god. A disbelief is also a belief.
>
> Only a fundamentalist can say that.
>
Or someone who reads the dictionary.
> And it isn't true.
>
> You really don't understand anything abut faith and belief, do you?
>
> It is not a disbelief. It is simply absence of belief.
>
> Having faith in nothing, is not the same as not having faith in anything.
>
> YOU are saying that $GOD=NULL; is a statement in *my program*.
>
> I am telling you that there is no $GOD variable to be found anywhere in it.
>
Incorrect. $GOD comes with the language - society insures that. You
just don't believe in using it.
> Which surprises you, because you assumed that it came with the whole
> language. I am telling you it doesn't.
>
>
And that's where you are wrong. You don't have to use it or believe in
it, but the concept is there.
>>
>>> I also profess no belief in leprechauns. Does that make me some kind
>>> of religious person?
>>>
>>
>> Leprechauns are not gods.
>>
>
> How do you know that?
>
Society's definition of gods and leprechauns.
>>> In fact there are thousands of things I do not believe, up to and
>>> including that GW Bush is the reincarnation of Immelda Markos.
>>>
>>> Like my non belief in god, the are simply not worth mentioning.
>>>
>>> What religious people do not like at all, is that to an atheist, the
>>> issue of whether god exists or not is simply irrelevant.
>>> Uninteresting in the highest degree. Its useless to believe or
>>> disbelieve. It has little objective effect either way.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I really don't care one way or the other what you think. Your
>> religious views are your own. Just don't infringe on my right to
>> believe as I choose.
>>
>
> I don't have any religious views, Jerry. That is the whole point.
> I live a life in which religion *of my own* simply DOES NOT FEATURE.
>
> Days and weeks go by without me even thinking abut religion. And dare I
> say it, its the better for it.
>
But you do have religious views. Whether you think about them or not,
they are there. And you've been espousing them quite a bit in this thread.
>
>
>>>> And you have a belief in the lack of a god.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, simply no belief in its existence. And no need to have or not
>>> have the belief.
>>
>> Same idea, different words.
>>
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> Not at all.
>
> An act of disbelief is an act.
>
> Simply not believing in the first place is not an act. Its the absence
> of an act.
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>
>
And not believing in something is disbelief. Check the dictionary.
Like it or not, you have weighed the evidence and made a conscious
decision to not believe in a god. That is an act.
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