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Posted by dorayme on 10/19/07 10:11
In article <wN_Ri.1745$CN4.1482@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"rf" <rf@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> "Tim Streater" <tim.streater@dante.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:tim.streater-C2CCC3.10070419102007@news.individual.net...
> > In article <yc_Ri.1733$CN4.1478@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> > "rf" <rf@invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@waitrose.com> wrote in message
> >> news:timstreater-650DBE.08521219102007@individual.net...
> >> > In article <IMudnbZMmfQWyoXanZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@midco.net>,
> >> > Sean Fritz <administrator@vaxius.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Frames are dead.
> >> >
> >> > This, on the other hand, is rubbish.
> >>
> >> Care to cite any modern (that is, this century) source that advocates the
> >> use of frames? And I mean a proper source, not some web dreziners blog.
> >
> > It's the blanket statement that is rubbish. Frames (and iframes) are
> > working just fine for my application (for a closed community of
> > engineers).
>
> How many engineers? 20? Out of say 2,000,000,000 internet users?
well, I don't think, to be fair, Tim is taking some position that
these facts are all that relevant to. Yeah I know... but frames,
when done well (a rare thing) are not an incompetent thing to
implement, especially with a restricted audience or for CD or
other distributed media.
There is no point reviewing all the evils of frames every time
the poor things rear their heads. They have one huge advantage in
that they perfectly implement the no-scrolling navigation menu.
One of the silliest things ever in the history of mankind is how
we have all gotten so used to useful navigation doing the
disappearing act like the bloody station leaving the station
along with the train! O, we say, that is just standard practice.
Live with it. The alternatives with position: fixed and other
things made Spartanicus (god)'s browser jerky...
I will stop now. Tim, it irritates me too to keep seeing the word
"frames" in the same sentence as "evil" or "dead". I prefer
sunnier associations. I kinda like:
Marilyn Monroe
Henry Fonda
Red
Triumph motorbikes
Angle grinder
Macintosh G4 Quicksilver
Coogee beach
and hell... even...
Thredbo (I have a nce 35mm B & W of me on a Trumpy at Thredbo...)
--
dorayme
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