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Posted by Steve on 01/02/08 18:57
"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Fesser wrote:
>> .oO(Steve)
>>
>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:mJidnRYAhdsKJO7anZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> Wrong again, Stevie. A C++ pointer is not the same as a C++ reference.
>>>> And C doesn't have references, just as PHP doesn't have pointers.
>>>>
>>>>> in php, a reference (or byref) behaves *IDENTICALLY* to a c/c++
>>>>> pointer. there are somethings that you cannot do with this reference
>>>>> in php that you could in other languages, however, the nature of the
>>>>> beast is the same. i know that a reference in php is really just an
>>>>> alias of the symbol table entry, but really that just seems a matter
>>>>> of symantics to me. i don't care where things are stored at such a low
>>>>> level when i'm writing in a scripting language. i care about
>>>>> behaviors.
>>>>>
>>>> Wrong again. They behave much differently.
>>> read, jerry, read. show me how in *PHP* the behavior is different.
>>
>> All these things can't be done with references as they exist in PHP:
>>
>> * pointer arithmetics
>> * pointer pointers
>> * working with the pointer itself or the value it points to (which is
>> the basis for the first two things)
>> * ...
>>
>> There are _no_ pointers in PHP. A reference is _not_ a pointer.
>>
>> And since PHP references behave identically to C++ references (both are
>> symbol table alias names), your statement above would also mean that C++
>> references behave identically to pointers as well. Would you tell that
>> to a C++ programmer?
>>
>> Micha
>>
>
> Hi, Micha,
>
> Forget Stevie. He's not worth it.
apparently 'worth it' enough for you to spend an exhorbidant amount of time
badgering. :)
> A more appropriate place for him would be alt.stoopid.trolls instead of
> someplace real programmers hang out.
well jerry, you're a teacher, not a programmer. so, double-entendre
intended, you can get lost.
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