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Posted by Gary L. Burnore on 01/06/08 16:44
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:36:18 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:57:07 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:21 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:14:24 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:26:11 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
>>>>>>> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:47:33 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:49:31 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In <XrqdnW_lGbgurODanZ2dnUVZ_u_inZ2d@comcast.com> on Thu, 03 Jan
>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 14:03:11 -0500, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In <C3A2D429.F13D%nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:04:25 +0000, Andy Jacobs <nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get it. Why was the original post spam?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it wasn't spam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Breidbart Index is woefully out of date.
>>>>>>>>>>> When was that decided? I must have missed that debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's been dismissed as virtually meaningless for quite a while, now.
>>>>>>>>>> SPAM has changed, but the index hasn't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In a.w.w, ads of any kind are considered SPAM.
>>>>>>>>>>> What aww might or might not consider is about as relevant outside
>>>>>>>>>>> aww as a spider's fart. I'm not reading this thread in aww.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fine. I am reading this in a.w.w., and it is spam here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The BI was adopted as a way of avoiding would-be Usenet vigilantes
>>>>>>>>>>> deciding to classify posts as spam on the basis that they disliked
>>>>>>>>>>> the contents. This discussion shows that the wisdom of that
>>>>>>>>>>> concern still has relevance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you have some meaningless, out of date measurement which doesn't say
>>>>>>>>>> something is spam or not, but only classifies the severity of the SPAM.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right. Try again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Until someone else comes up with a better content-blind objective
>>>>>>>>>>> definition of spam, the BI is still the benchmark.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is. The charter and/or FAQs for the newsgroup. And the FAQs for
>>>>>>>>>> a.w.w., which were agreed to by the majority of the regulars here,
>>>>>>>>>> classify this as spam.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LIA[SLAP]
>>>>>>>> FAQs aren't charters and are not enforceable. Charters in unmoderated
>>>>>>>> alt gorups are also uninforceable. Off charter in comp groups, on the
>>>>>>>> other hand, is something that can get your news provider's attention.
>>>>>>> My bad - didn't look first at the group list. While perfectly
>>>>>>> acceptable in AWW, in a comp group you're right in that its off
>>>>>>> charter which *is* enforcable. Perhaps the zealots in AWW should
>>>>>>> attempt to have it reclassified into a group that has an official
>>>>>>> charter, but in the meantime nobody cares :o)
>>>>>> There's really no such thing as a valid charter in an alt.* group.
>>>>>> Alt.config is a bogus group of morons who want to turn alt into
>>>>>> another form of big8 groups. Never gonna happen. Of course,
>>>>>> moderated groups can and do control content but non-moderated groups
>>>>>> are freeform. Stukkie will just have to learn to use a killfile
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nevertheless, please accept my apologies for the mistake.
>>>>>> Accepted. Unfortunately, Jerry won't stop crossposting back to
>>>>>> comp.*.
>>>>> Sorry, Gary.
>>>> Liar.
>>>>
>>> Let's see you prove that statement, Gary.
>>
>> You're doing it for me, Jerry. YOU are still posting to comp.lang.php
>> and he's not "making you do it". YOU are the one posting off charter.
>> YOU. Not him.
>>
>
>And your posts are on topic? ROFLMAO! Pot-Kettle-Black.
>
How's that ignoring me thing going, stukkie? OOPS, did you LIE again?
>>> you're just as bad as the troll is.
>>
>>>>> I have been attacked and maligned by two trolls in a.w.w
>>>>> who have cross-posted to c.l.p. and other newsgroups. I will not let
>>>>> those go away.
>>>> Because you're owned. Owned owned owned.
>>>>
>>> Ok, let's tell your employer you're a criminal and a fraud. See if you
>>> like it?
>>
>> Go for it, dipshit. I've been called far worse. My employer is
>> DataBasix.com. OOPS! Too bad for you.
>>
>
>Oh, you mean the one who can't even keep a website running? ROFLMAO!
Hahahahaha. DataBasix isn't a WEBSITE, dumbass.
>>> But you're obviously a troll - familiar over a bunch of newsgroups and
>>> message boards on the usenet. A quick search brings up several
>>> complaints about your trolling.
>>
>> Poor little tard. You should surely soon be quoting that Jerry
>> Terranson website and stepping right into kookdom. Once you find it,
>> you'll see why I feel safe in saying that people who make up false
>> shit about you don't matter. YOU're the one who's making a fool of
>> yourself.
>>
>
>A lot more than just one website, troll.
Bring it on, stuckkie. You know you want to.
>
>>
>>> So from now on I'll just ignore you - like the ignorant should be.
>>>
>>>>> However, it may not be a problem from at least one of these for much longer.
>>>> If he loses an account because you lied to his NSP, I'll see to it he
>>>> gets a free account. Since you've decided to go play NetKKKop, I'll
>>>> take every one of your off charter posts to your provider, comcast. K?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No lies. Just showing the ISP's what they've done.
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>
>Sorry, troll. No lies.
Liar.
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