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Posted by Steve on 01/08/08 04:40
"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>> Rik Wasmus wrote:
>>
>>>> Also, when I say that I want to incorporate database development into
>>>> my
>>>> company, I also mean real company databases, not just online databases.
>>> The difference being?
>>
>> I wish I could get technical and give you and answer as to what the
>> difference would be. But I'm new to this so all I can give you is
>> examples.
>>
>> For instance. I work for a call center that uses a database system for
>> inbound/outbound calls, routing calls, and to determine arrangements for
>> account balances.
>
> So? It's a database system. It's a tool. It could be MySQL,
> PostGresSQL, Oracle, SyBase, SQL Server, DB2.... take your pick. They all
> work.
>
>> This system was developed by some IT company. I want to be that IT
>> company.
>> The process and the languages involved in developing this system has to
>> be
>> different and more deeper into computer science than PHP and MYSQL.
>
> Good luck. You'll need to walk before you can run. No one (in their
> right mind, anyway) is going to hire a company with no proven experience.
>
>> So that's what I'm asking. Like in addition to those languages used for
>> web/database development, what languages would I need to learn to develop
>> a
>> database like the one my employer has?
>>
>
> Any of these will work. But you'll need experience. I've been consulting
> since 1990. But before that I had 13 years of experience with IBM to show.
> Even then, the first few jobs were hard. With no experience, you're not
> going to get much for jobs. And certainly not something like you're
> talking, which is critical to their business.
>
> I'm not trying to scare you off. I just don't want you to have
> unrealistic hopes.
>
> Of course, you can put something together and hope to sell it. You might
> even make a few bucks. But don't count on it. Maybe 1 in 10,000 of those
> projects will make the programmer(s) the equivalent of minimum wage. Come
> to think of that, it's probably a lot less than 1 in 10,000.
quantifing with real numbers would be nice.
a smart developer pays attention to the needs of his clients not just to
give them what they want, but to learn how they do business and what their
current software (or system) lacks. said smart developer would then have a
relationship with his first customer already when said smart developer
unveiled his system that had everything that customer wanted...but didn't
have to ask for. there's his first reference too. i've done that three times
in my career and have bought as many homes with the proceeds. you get hired
to do one thing and you should always walk away knowing where more can be
done. that's not only smart, it's how consultants survive...good ones
anyway.
said smart developer would have made sure to read his contract very
carefully and negotiate his IP beforehand too.
as it is, whatever ratio you feel like creating, jerry, the higher number,
the better. it follows closely the same percentage of 'smart developers'. :)
1 in 10K is close enough to get the point across.
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