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Posted by The Natural Philosopher on 01/08/08 13:50
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> Good luck. You'll need to walk before you can run. No one (in their
>> right mind, anyway) is going to hire a company with no proven experience.
>>
>>> So that's what I'm asking. Like in addition to those languages used for
>>> web/database development, what languages would I need to learn to develop a
>>> database like the one my employer has?
>> Any of these will work. But you'll need experience. I've been
>> consulting since 1990. But before that I had 13 years of experience with
>> IBM to show. Even then, the first few jobs were hard. With no
>> experience, you're not going to get much for jobs. And certainly not
>> something like you're talking, which is critical to their business.
>>
>> I'm not trying to scare you off. I just don't want you to have
>> unrealistic hopes.
>
> Thanks for your expertise and opinions.
>
> I realize that I have to crawl before I walk. I have a vision for my future
> and my motivation and vision is what is going to carry me to my goals.
>
> Honestly, not to overlook your credentials and years of expertise, but it was
> your choice to spend 13 years with IBM before you began consulting. Your
> companies success has to do with your team, vision, connections, and ability
> to sell your services. The first and the latter would be the most important...
> team and sales. I've known web/database developers that started off
> consulting with smaller to mid range companies and evolved to working with
> larger companies within 5-7 years. And I personally don't like the mindset
> that you have to spend 10-13 years of your life working for someone before
> you can branch out and establish your own company. That mindset is what they
> teach you in college and it sucks.
>
In my case it was my growing conviction, and the attitude that went with
it, that I could do their jobs better than they could do mine..that
eventually led me to prove it.
The 10-13 years is psychological, not skill/experience based. YMMV. Go
for it.
> It is definitely possible for me to do the same immediately after building a
> foundation in Computer Science. It's all about how quickly you apply it to
> your goals.
>
I would recommend a few more years of working for others just to get the
feel of commercial environments, and with respect, to forget everything
you learned in computer science, and learn to program a computer instead ;-)
Of all the useless employees I have had, CompSci grads are the worst.
They think they know better, but they don't. Best were maths grads,
(always found the simplest way to do things) second best were engineers,
(stopped when it worked, not when it was optimal== cheaper)
third best were scientists (generally happy NOT to be doing science,
and be doing something vaguely technical and useful).
> But anyhow, thanks for the throwing the languages at me, I will definitely
> look into those.
>
Get a linux box, put apache 2, Mysql, and php 5 on it, and a text
editor, and start writing your own sites. Pick something simple and
useful. Your knowledge will naturally expand in the most relevant
direction to what you want to do.
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