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Posted by dorayme on 01/21/08 21:58
In article <ndadnYU7oaHTkAjaRVnyjwA@bt.com>,
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org>
wrote:
> "Neredbojias" <monstersquasher@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A2C8E8EB5DCCnanopandaneredbojias@194.177.96.78...
> >
> >> For example, I cannot see how The Guardian news site would be as clear
> >> when using liquid layouts. www.guardian.co.uk
> >
> > Actually, the site is somewhat successfully liquid via javascript. This
> > demonstrates that the site _could have_ been completely liquid had the
> > creator been less inept.
>
> Inept? I'd have to disregard what else you've said in that case. That site
> is often used as an example of good design in the UK. Could you find a
> better designed news site? I really doubt it. Making that site with a
> liquid layout would bring a lot of formatting problems to the people making
> the content. It'd just be a mess.
>
OK lets look at a typical page:
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2244122,00.html>
It uses a transitional doctype. Perhaps this is ok. Some people
will wonder what it is transitioning from. But still it has lots
of errors. I saw a count above 80.
There are some css ones too. Perhaps these latter things are not
that important and due to various hacks to ward off greater
dangers...
But there are some nasty looking things like body {font-size:
small...} which do not auger well. It is not a good thing to
start the day with. The authors actually admit (in a comment on
body):
"For most browsers we want to default to font-size small, but for
IE 5 PC we want to use x-small, as it's font sizes are one size
out"
Now, I am not saying that a table layout is a terrible crime - it
is not - but you cannot have a table layout like this site uses
these days for non tabular material and trumpet too loudly its
good design, much less hold it up as an example.
Not saying the site is incompetent. It is not.
--
dorayme
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