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Posted by ng on 08/18/05 04:46
Steve,
Personal experience has taught me that by making something so easy to
use that just about anybody can use it not only detracts from the power
it could have, but also breeds errors and security holes. I have been a
Windows programmer for many years and after making my move to the
unix/linux world, I have been first amazed at how stable and robust the
environment and applications are, then so humbled by the truly expert
environment it is.
I can relate to your frustration, but if you stop comparing this new
world with the old windows world, you will be able to focus more on the
task at hand - learning a new, and awesome environment. I'm sorry I
can't offer any helpful advice - I'm still learning this stuff - other
than, don't give up. With so many incredible php sites out there, it's
obvious it can be USED.
Just a side note: Bill constantly markets dogs, they just install really
easily. I'd much rather have a little diffculty up front ( which I have
found has always been due to my own loack of understanding ) and have a
stable and robust product.
Tom
Steve Welch wrote:
>After seeing all the references to "PAM", MySql, Apache, I decided to give
>it a try:
> MySql - Great database, downloaded the binary for Solaris 10 from the
>site, installed it and was building databases in just a few minutes.
> Apache - Super, got the (already installed with Solaris 10) 2.0 server
>up and running without too much difficulty, no downloads involved, just a
>few configuration changes.
> PHP - What a LET-DOWN! I downloaded the compiled php5.0.4 from
>sunfreeware.dom and had it up and running, again without too many problems
>UNTIL I tried to access MySQL via php. It turns out that unless you are a
>complete computer Geek with all of the C, C++, gcc (and half the acronyms in
>the alphabet) software and programmer skills, FORGET IT.
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>Even with the compiled binary from sunfreeware, php5+ can't access any
>database that's available to an "average" user without re-compiling (AND the
>database MUST be on the local machine to do that). Opps! I take that back,
>if you get the Window$ binary, it appears to be as simple as un-commenting a
>line or two in a configuration ini file. How come you guys are making the
>Windows version easier to use than the Unix/Linux version?
>
>Looks like I'm going to have to try ODBC (or 'shiver, shiver' JAVA)!
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>Just a thought for all you geeks - Wonder how much money Bill Gates would
>make from a program like this?
>(Hint-Hint I don't think even he would try to market a dog like this without
>putting something together that could be installed and used "out of the
>box").
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>You people need to get your head out of the clouds and start putting
>something together that can be USED!
>
>Wonder if I'll get any responses to this one, I sure didn't when I looked
>for some help earlier!
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