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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 12/23/47 11:24

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:15:16 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:

>Theres alot to SEO, and it is worth getting into. Generally its
>considered bad SEO to do everything, particularly key aspects, in flash
>only, same goes for images. But, google for one, have been experimenting
>and progressing, with the indexing the textual parts of flash and images.

Now ya see, right there I'm disagreeing and I think that's like some
kind of old net tale. Doing only parts in Flash and the rest in HTML,
JavaScript, etc is just gonna lead to a whole slew of problems. I
know cause I've been experimenting with such usage. The biggest
problems are synchronization related, especially with animated
elements. After awhile you suddenly realize you're putting in 10
times as much effort trying to get all this different crap to work
together when, huh, why not just do it all in Flash? Like last night
I'm workin on all this different shit and suddenly I'm just like,
"What the fuck am I doing?" It's like what I was working on could
just be so easily integrated into just one whole Flash file with so
little extra effort and I was just stumped to find a reason why I
shouldn't do it. I mean, really, what is the reason(s)? o_O

>The reason your site comes top would be much more to do with usenet
>posts being cross fed into web boards, which then get google crawled. I
>did an experiment once, something todo with doom3 [i forget]. I knew
>there would be alot of traffic and discussion on boards for it as it was
>just released, so I made a number of posts on the top usenet doom3
>froups with my link in, and sure enough, these fed the webboards, which
>now had higher traffic and higher result positions, which then increased
>the PR of my site and lifted that up. Increased my traffic by about 400% :D

On the whole I find Google to be a very poor means of "advertisement".
I'm curious, did you actually track the redirect stats to find out
where the users were coming from? Somehow I seriously doubt the
majority of them were from Google results. In fact I'm betting the
majority came directly from the web boards and Usenet groups.

>The main SEO point where people fall down, is the whole keywords. If you
>over pack the meta keywords or just stack keywords into the whitespace
>of your sites [- google is big on content relevance, and thus keywords
>in content], you can actually get banned from engines. - Again I
>experimented with this, got off google in like 2 days :P The best thing
>to do is use semantically correlated keywords - words that mean the same
>thing, so you dont repeat, and used appropriately of course.
>
>What you could do, with the whole widescreen idea, is horizontally
>repeat the background at 100% width, then center your content and layer
>it over the top :)

Or I could just center it in wide screen and then the sides would look
cut off for 800x600 users (not really any getting around that unless I
want to make everything else go uber small for 800x600 users).

>These may also be of use if youre going for the whole flash thing:
>http://tinyurl.com/7pmmu

The link doesn't work.

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