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Re: [PHP] Quick Poll: PHP 4 / 5

Posted by Manuel Lemos on 09/17/05 01:12

Hello,

on 09/15/2005 09:32 AM Oliver Grätz said the following:
>>> First of all, in many cases code reuse still is a myth. I hate to say it
>>> but it's true. Then, a large potion of the PHP community hasn't even
>>> heard of PEAR. Then, people definitely start projects from scratch. If
>> You don't know if you have any numbers to back "the large portion of the
>> PHP community claim".
>
> The proof is the sheer number of "this is *THE* PHP application
> framework to use" sites on the internet. Some people don't like reusing
> code, some evaluate those projects and decide against them. For my part,
> before reinventing the wheel I always spend some time serching through
> PEAR and the web but very often the available solutions don't fit my
> needs. I simply suppose other developers tend to act the same way.

That is not proof of your claim. It is just your opinion without figures
to back the clain

>
>> Anyway, as the developer of phpclasses.org, the largest PHP class
>> repository, I can inform you that the site has accumulated near 270,000
>> subscriber since 1999, of which at least half of them are considered
>> active as you may verify here:
>>
>> http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/statistics/statistics.html
>>
>> The site has 2,200 approved packages but only 71 are PHP 5 specific.
>>
>> That is a lot of people reusing a lot of public class libraries!
>
> Ah, that thing. The site that always gives me problems when I try to log

I have no idea what problems are talking. All sessions expire after 30
days. If you need to access something that requires authentication, you
need to login after 30 days of abscense. If you do not recall your
password, you can ask a reminder or to reset the password. Other than
that, I don't know problems are you talking about?


> in after absence. I had switched to reregistering for every access
> before Berlios came along (thanks for threatening to sue them) and now I
> use the "Monster TGZs".

I am afraid you are also misunderstanding the matters. That fellow was
abusing from the site in several ways. One is that he was ripping all
the title and descriptions of the packages that I enter when I approve a
class. That is a copyright violation. Another thing is that he was
employing robots to leech the site. Not only it was causing excessive
load to the server but he was also causing excessive bandwidth usage.

Anyway, I do not care if whoever replicates the package files available
in the site. If you want to waste bandwidth on that, that is your
problem. I just can't accept serving files to people that act with
malice against a site that serves tens of thousands of PHP users,
causing me financial expenses that the site advertising revenue can't
cover. After all what do you want? Shut down the site so no PHP user can
benefit from it?

Anyway, the problem of excessive load and bandwidth, was not being cause
by just that fellow. Therefore, in case you do not know, several
measures were taken to discourage the use of robots. All the users
receiving the site newsletter were told about this. If you have not been
in the site lately, once you get there you will realize why leeches will
have an hard time to work now. This means that it will be hard to keep
up with replication repositories.



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Regards,
Manuel Lemos

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