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Posted by Jim Scott on 01/23/52 11:26
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:52:54 +1000, dorayme wrote:
>> From: Jim Scott <mr.jimscott@Xvirgin.net>
>>
>>> dorayme
>>
>> Thanks you for your very thorough reply.
>> Various bodies moan about frames so when I saw this:
>> http://www.nvu.com/demos/frames/frameSimulate.html
>> it got me to thinking. Not a thing that happens often.;o)
>>
>> I got 'so far' but could not get three panels in the arrangement I
>> currently use. I cannot work out how to get the boxes side by side rather
>> than one above the other.
>
> I truly think you should reconsider a top panel like that just
> for a home and next button. You have so much room in the content
> panel, above and below the picture. Then it is so simple. You
> have a left panel with the links, if you must have thumbnails -
> against my advice :) - then style the left div to centre all
> with devices like margin-left:auto, margin-right:auto and give a
> padding for grace esp if you might put a nice right border (it
> might be a bit severe all black and no border!). You float this
> div "left" and your other div is just a straightforward exercise
> in html and css: I would have an <h1>Title of pic</h1>, style
> this to center by say margin-left:auto, margin-right:auto and a
> width of a suitable em, a font-size you fancy - 140%? Then a div
> (styled similarly but now you know the width in px because it is
> your pic). Then a following div or p with a next and home link,
> centred underneath. Should be a simple clean look.
>
>> I understand your comment about the home button in a frame in its own, but
>> if I move it to the main frame it becomes a positioning problem if the page
>> is displayed on 800 x 600 which I'm sure happens a lot of the time. Then
>> WHAT buttons do I have, 'home' and 'next' or 'home', 'next' and 'back' OR
>> only 'home' and so enforce use of the thumbnails every time?
>>
>
> I can't see why you see a problem on a small screen, even the
> tiniest? You centre such simple and few links and they will
> always be there and centred. See above.
>
> dorayme
Sorry, it's morning and I'm not thinking straight :o(
Thinking 'in frames' for the moment so I can see the layout clearly.
You suggest 1) the thumbnails frame is to go from top to bottom
2) a new frame above the enlarged photo with two buttons 'home' on the left
and 'next on the right (with page header text between?)
3) the main enlarged picture below?
The complication with that would appear to be that currently the only thing
that changes between pictures is the content of the right hand frame and
more importantly, perhaps, with it changes the 'next' link which is on the
same page. If the new top right box remains static, not only does the
contents of the picture frame have to change, but so does the 'next' link
above?
A simpler solution would be to add a 'home' button to the top left of every
page.
In a wider context; placing graphics without tables is something I have not
been able to get to grips with whether on the context of html or using css.
Where the contents of part of the screen changes then frames are used in
the majority of commercial websites and do the job admirably.
It is because several contributors here get very 'sniffy' about using
tables and frames that I have been making this attempt, but the more I try,
the more it feels like making my own sweater, by first going off to market
to buy a sheep :o?
--
Jim
Tyneside UK
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