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Posted by Jim Higson on 09/13/05 13:26
Neredbojias wrote:
> With neither quill nor qualm, Jim Higson quothed:
>
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>>
>> > With neither quill nor qualm, Jim Higson quothed:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Most sites seem to use smaller text smaller than the user's default
>> >> for their content. Not just badly designed sties - a lot of the very
>> >> beautiful pages on CSS Zen Garden have text at 80% or smaller. From
>> >> what I can tell, this is because browsers (IE especially) have the
>> >> default text size set to be quite large.
>> >>
>> >> Now, if users are used to text being set to 80% in CSS, they will set
>> >> their default size to 120% or so, thus getting it back up to a sane
>> >> size. I do this: I like reading 10px text, but if I keep that as the
>> >> default I have to hit Ctrl-plus for every site, so I set my browser to
>> >> use size 14.
>> >>
>> >> When designing sites I like to respect the users' preferences, and
>> >> have always thought the main content should be the default size, but
>> >> once users have compensated for every other site using 60~90% for
>> >> their default text this is making the text on my sites look large and
>> >> out of place. Plus there are many IE users who don't realise they can
>> >> change their default text size and just wonder why my text is so
>> >> large.
>> >>
>> >> The "font-size:80%" phenomenon seems to be a larger problem among web
>> >> designers of following the letter of the spec (validating HTML etc)
>> >> but not in the spirit by actually using the tools as intended.
>> >>
>> >> What to do?
>> >
>> > Go out drinking. In lieu of that
>>
>> Can't I do both?
>
> Of course. In fact, the problem won't seem as serious if you do.
>
>>
>> > , if you're capable at javascript, you
>> > can detect the actual size of text on users' browsers and adjust it
>> > accordingly. (Javascript users only, of course.)
>>
>> Ok, I'd say I'm capable at Javascript.
>> Check out my pet project beta (in Gecko)
>> http://81.5.150.113/wysi
>
> ?? I got this:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
> <head><title>Wikiwyg</title>
> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="skins/monobook/main.cssz"/>
> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="wysimain.cssz"/>
> <script type="text/javascript" src="all.jamz"/><script
> type="text/javascript">window.onload = init;</script>
> <link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href="favicon.ico"/>
> </head><body/></html>
Yeah, it's an experiment in fitting Ajax into MediaWiki. That's all you'll
get without Javascript. With Javascript you should get the full wiki, but
it's only been tested in recent versions of Gecko.
>>
>> It'll be released proper pretty soon.
>>
>> > Example:
>> >
>> > http://www.neredbojias.com/alpha/rextex.html
>>
>> This is interesting, but I'm not certain what they're doing is what I
>> want. They're resizing the text to always only just fill the page without
>> scrolling. I don't think this'd work very well for my 700 word articles.
>
> No, it was meant as an example only. Put some text in a container,
> gauge the height of said container with javascript, and resize the text
> accordingly. The "example" proves the technique works.
>
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