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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 12/06/05 10:38
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 01:32:56 -0600, Noodles Jefferson
<silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
>> http://conservation.ceq.gov/media/exhibithallandexhibitors.pdf
>>
>> Guess which one! He, he, he...we can make a game of it! ^_^
>Dude, no offense, but this is waaaaay out of your league. Way too high
>powered to be dealing with the Care Bear Boy from Backwater Productions.
>
>Just give this one up right now. It's sooooooo not happening.
*snicker*
Come on, Noodle Dick, it's no fun if you don't play the game. Come
on, take a guess.
If you make a really big stink in your pants about it I might go ahead
and put it up (with blurred sections).
I have a lot of <strike>obsessed pathetics</strike> fans who like to
try shit like this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics/msg/b5cba3b29e5bf94f
Which is why I don't normally make a big habit of going around
advertising who my clients are, I don't see much point in giving
deficients like Lorem the opportunity to try and attack my clients
because they can't get to me. With Steve it's not a problem cause
Steve is a real cool guy, who thinks all lot of this Usenet melodrama
stuff is kinda fun. But with most of my clients, especially the
higher end ones, I feel the need to protect them from FREAKS on
Usenet.
>> >> You can't even DREAM of getting clients on MY level, Sweetheart.
>> >That would be what, the non-existant level?
>> I'm not on your level, Poser Boi.
>God damn right you're not.
....um...you DO realize you just auto-flamed yourself, right?
>You do the same thing everytime under the
>same philosophy and you never learn from any of it.
....I rarely ever do the same thing, Kiddo. Unless you're referring to
your iframe obsession again, but like I'm tried to hammer into you
COUNTLESS times, that's merely a preferred base layout. There are two
main "professional" type layouts Noodles, the first is to have a
"portal" centered in the middle of the screen (which is what I prefer)
and the other is horizontally centered content, that starts from the
very top and may or may not have scrolling...and if it does you can
tell the level of skill by whether or not the navigation controls stay
on the screen whilst scrolling. In other words if you scroll down and
suddenly the navigation is gone...yeah, bad designer.
Coincidentally, the later is actually used FAR more often than the
"portal" style (often because it's easier), so again, I don't see why
you're so obsessed with it.
>Shut the fuck up and learn something.
>Please. For the love of all that's fucking tasty
>and good, stop trying to pretend like you know anything.
Noodle Head, you REALLY should spend less time repeating yourself and
more time workin on yer nonexistent skillz. You've only come up with
ONE site in the past, what...oh yeah, EVER. o_O
Come on d00d, you need to practice, go find a community, strip mine it
for material, creating a bad ass site for it and then take the whole
thing over...that's what the CB site of mine is...practice.
>Heh. Keep talking the shit mang. Hey, don't give your bullshit about
>level because here's what I know and have done.
>
>I haven't made anything less than an AB since I started school.
Look, Noodles...I'm only gonna say this one more time...school doesn't
count, okay? You're at school to get a magic piece of paper to
convince some corporate know nothing that you're at least remotely
qualified for the position. Hell, most jobs in the industry, you
can't even get in the fuckin DOOR without a BA degree...and it doesn't
matter how good you are. You could be the Jesus raping PICASSO of web
design and yer not gonna get a job unless you have a degree or you're
the luckiest son of a bitch in existence.
The bottom line is YOU NEED TO PRACTICE...and you need to do it NOW
while you're IN school. Cause when you GET OUT of school...yer gonna
wanna have a portfolio ready to go.
> I'm probably looking at straight A's for the
>semster but I'm trying to keep myself humble.
Kid, employers don't CARE what GRADES you got. They just wanna know
whether you have the degree or not, if you do, you get an interview,
if you don't, you don't get an interview...unless you bombard them
with examples and go out of your way to convince them that you're
capable of doing the job...but even then sometimes they won't hire you
because they don't want to "rock the boat", since everyone else there
will have a degree and they'll get all pissy and indignant if you're
suddenly there makin the same wage they are without one...it's
politics kid, it's how the business world works.
>In my first semester, I
>was 5 points away from having a perfect score in one of my classes.
You should be aiming for Bs and spending the spare time you save
practicing your art and developing your techniques (applies to
anything, even web coding)
>I taught myself how to read at 4. Level. Blow me.
Reading is not the same as comprehending...and considering how much of
my posts you often like to ignore, like the shit you keep retarding on
about with the iframe...yeah, I'd say comprehension isn't something
yer too good with.
>That's your fucking
>level. I make 2200 dollars a year fucking *learning* at my school, not
>including my job at school.
Is that all? It's too bad you don't know computer repair, you could
be making a LOT more. When I was working on my AA degree I was
pulling in about a $1,000 a month building people computers and fixing
their old computers.
> I took the work study. It's worth it.
>Doesn't pay very well but it beats McDonald's by a long country mile.
In some states work study equals an automatic food stamp card, which
is a real good deal. Like I'm going to be starting work on my BA
degree this spring at SOU and if I do work study and meet the min
income requirements (making $1200 or less a month) I can get a $150 a
month food stamp debit card, pretty sweet deal. So when I'm in school
I can be making $1200 a month, get $150 a month in food stamps, plus
the usual federal grant money...fuck, college pretty much pays for
itself...especially if you have the smarts to buy your books proper on
like Amazon.com.
One neat trick with books, find out which classes and which
instructors will let you use an earlier edition of the book, often
times while say the 9th edition is $300 the 8th edition will be like
$5...no, really, check it out sometime, I'm really not exaggerating.
Every quarter I was in school working on my AA degree, I actually MADE
MONEY off my books at the end of the quarter, reselling them on campus
after I bought them off Amazon.com
There's a lot of other tricks too that you can use to kind of "work
the system" to your advantage...hrmmm...maybe I should write a book
about that too.
>More if consider the value of the education itself. It's hard. It's made
>me cry before but I'm getting stronger everyday. By the time I'm done
>with school, probably sooner, you'll be a little dot behind me.
You're kidding yourself. Why you're doing mediocre busy work
assignments I'm spending an incredible amount of time building my
skill level. Why the hell do you think I'm taking near a whole year
off before starting work on my BA degree? It's chit like this:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/mine3.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/glass.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/horrible-tedium.png
Practice, practice, practice...if you have the discipline you can
increase your skill level at an exponential rate, especially if you
use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity of complete strangers in
random Usenet froups to overly critique your work and then use that
completely unrealistic view as your base line. `, )
>The projects are fucking hard and
>detailed. We're given a spec sheet and it has to meet that standard or
>we get dusted on points. There's style rules, there's syntax rules,
>there's about a bazillion fucking hoops you have to jump through to get
>there.
I'm familiar with that kind of crap, Kiddo, I already have an AA
degree. It was never anything more than child's play for me. I found
the specific standards to be akin with training wheels, they actually
made it even EASIER to complete assignments because they told you
specifically what they wanted, it's was like crossing off a grocery
list. LOL
To me, "hard" would be dropping me off at the grocery store and being
told: "Find all the ingredients to make a cheese souffle." under the
prerequisite that I would have never actually made a cheese souffle in
my life...of course, I'd probably call it more fun than hard, but
that's just my nature...I love a challenge.
>> >This reads like a homework assignment.
>> Yeesh, I'd hope not.
>That's exactly what it sounds like.
You must have pretty easy assignments then. Hard would be how I made
this:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/mine3.png
I had NOTHING to work from but a single flat image:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/neat.png
Just imagine how much you'd be struggling if your assignments were all
like that. ^_^
>> Is that really how they're writing text books
>> these days? I was completely vague in my methodology, I didn't even
>> give any precise numbers, like I did on this one I made:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/transtext.png
>>
>> Now that reads like a textbook!
>I didn't say 'textbook', dumbfuck. I said 'assignment'.
....is there a difference?
>> Oh hey, do you think I should? Write a text book I mean.
>> Hrmmm...might be fun.
>Do it. That'd be fucking awesome.
Eh...maybe at some point...I need to finish that CB story though first
(up to chapter 13 now, only 1 thru 4 has been properly copy edited
though at this point)...the next time I start writing a book though
I'm not gonna use a preexisting base...you don't even want to know how
much the AGC wants out of any profit I make. I got in a pretty heated
debate with them over it, but they hold the base rights, so I don't
have much choice unless I just want to give it away for free.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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