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 Posted by RickW on 03/07/06 06:29 
Ignoring the rude, ego-inflated hot air that blasts off the page, I 
reply with a few details. 
 
I don't think our company is going to disappear because 31 views had an 
Order By clause in them.  In about two hours I moved about half the 
Order By clauses to the SQL-building routines in the front end of the 
application, and the rest will finish tomorrow.  I was hoping to leave 
the sorting on the machine with the muscle, but too bad for me. 
 
I have not read any of Tony Rogerson's postings, and if your tone in the 
responses in this thread are a sample of yours, I don't plan to rush to 
find them.  Come to think of it, if becoming a REAL SQL PROGRAMMER means 
having to talk to people as you do, I may not worry too much about 
taking that path, either. 
 
You said: "A VIEW with an ordering is absurd; a VIEW is a table and **by 
definition** has no ordering. DUH! And it always has been that way since 
1986. This is no surprise to REAL SQL programmers." 
 
Well DUH, and DUH again.  (If we had better graphics, you could put 
little frownie faces as the dots on your i's, too.)  Your friend DP will 
tell you that a view does not always return a table, properly speaking. 
You say it does.  If so, then doesn't a stored procedure also return a 
table?  And if so, why is it okay to sort a table returned by a stored 
procedure? 
 
And I'm not surprised at all by any of what anyone has said here.  I'm a 
bit ticked that a very useful feature, in place for almost a decade, was 
taken away without more reasonable notice.  I would have thought it 
would show up on the MSDN page I quoted in an earlier reply. 
 
I will assume that your suggestion to contact you offline is an attempt 
at humor.  If so, it's a pretty good one.  You can't possibly think that 
anything you said in your reply would make working with you seem 
appealing.   
 
Let me think...Wouldn't I love to hire someone who loves to insult 
people, who writes like an angry teenager, and who overrates his own 
understanding and abilities with every pronouncement?  And who wraps 
exactly one informative sentence ("a VIEW is a table and **by 
definition** has no ordering") in 10 ranting insults? Hmmmm.  Tough 
call. 
 
Come to think of it, I'm curious:  Why exactly did you bother to reply? 
Did you accomplish what you intended?  What exactly was that? 
 
 
 
 
Science is organized common sense where many a beautiful theory was 
killed by an ugly fact. -- Thomas Huxley 
 
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