Posted by verity on 01/28/67 11:49

oldwetdog wrote:
> verity wrote:
> > oldwetdog wrote:
> >> verity wrote:
> >>> oldwetdog wrote:
> >>>> verity wrote:
> >>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
> >>>>>> verity wrote:
> >>>>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
> >>>>>>>> verity wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Michael Laplante wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you've read this far at all you're probably ready to jump in with the
> >>>>>>>>>>> view that Word is possibly the WORST html editor ever.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But. . .
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Word can actually be a useful html TEXT editor. The trick is to use it in
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Recover text from any file" mode. If you open an html file in that mode, it
> >>>>>>>>>>> opens the file in text mode, not html view.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You can then use Word's powerful text handling features such as "Insert
> >>>>>>>>>>> file,"Auto Correct, search and replace, etc to create and add code snippets,
> >>>>>>>>>>> etc. You can also use font and background colours, text formatting, etc as
> >>>>>>>>>>> visual aids when creating "sections" within your file. You can use the
> >>>>>>>>>>> comments features to add notes to yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Get creative and you can probably think of a few good ideas of your own
> >>>>>>>>>>> using Word's numerous features.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> When it comes time to save the file, choose to save it as a TEXT file, but
> >>>>>>>>>>> give it the .htm extension. The first time you do that, Word will remember
> >>>>>>>>>>> the file name and you only need hit Ctrl-S periodically to save your file
> >>>>>>>>>>> during that editing session. If you want to save the file for future
> >>>>>>>>>>> editing, remember to save it in native Word format. The next time you open
> >>>>>>>>>>> it, your html will be opened as text complete with all the text formatting
> >>>>>>>>>>> you applied before to aid you in your page editing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps someone looking for a good HTML text editor. . .
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> M
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I suspect you work for, or paid by, Bill Gates...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> never mind...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <soapbox>
> >>>>>>>>>> However, forget using Word for editing or writing anything which
> >>>>>>>>>> you will later use in any kind of code, including HTML
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Not only are there the added steps needed as above, but when you
> >>>>>>>>>> save your file, even in ASCII Text mode, Word embeds characters
> >>>>>>>>>> which you then must search for and remove.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Word works fine for a spell checker...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> otherwise, use a tool for your purpose, not a tool poorly
> >>>>>>>>>> designed to be everything to everybody.
> >>>>>>>>>> </soapbox>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> owd
> >>>>>>>>> Good grief, I'm actually starting to understand this stuff.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Then I guess there IS hope for me... ;-)
> >>>>>>> There's always hope,
> >>>>>>> not always faith & charity though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope springs eternal....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now Faith was a pretty lass, pert smile and bright eyes, while
> >>>>>> her sister charity was a bytch...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oooops wrong page...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> actually, both Hope and Faith are within you, and I think you
> >>>>>> have demonstrated that..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Charity, now... No, it can be as rare as trust, and grudging
> >>>>>> charity is a bitter brew indeed.
> >>>>> Do you mean grudging to be charitable?
> >>>>> I think it's a really nice feeling to give but whether it's a 'good'
> >>>>> thing to give depends on the W's - what who when where and why.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I was referring to 'some' people being grudging when you are the
> >>>> one who need charity. Charity seems to be used two ways, the old
> >>>> way and the "deductible" way, and if it aint deductible you don't
> >>>> get any. Then too, when someone is obviously displeased at having
> >>>> to supply charity, they include bitterness and guilt with their
> >>>> gift, like adding vinegar in you tea.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> from reading your posts, I expect you have all three in your soul
> >>>> -- Faith, Hope and Charity of the old type...
> >>>>
> >>>> About the "W"s, Agreed - mostly, except sometimes it is good for
> >>>> the giver to give, no matter the who-why of the receiver.
> >>> Yes, that's what I meant about it not always being good, eg when it is
> >>> given in a way that demeans the reciever.
> >>> Or worse when the receiver is later made to feel uncomfortable; this is
> >>> /not/ charity IMO.
> >>> The best charity is to facilitate someone helping themselves, self
> >>> respect is important.
> >>>
> >> perhaps that is the only definition of Charity -- to Help
> >> someone. That is, if the gift does not result in the recipient
> >> being 'better' or 'improved' in a way that is meaningful to them,
> >> then they were not Helped.
> >>
> >> I also think, IMHO, that the 'gift' of charity must have value to
> >> the giver to be of value to both the giver and the recipient. If
> >> the 'gift' is trash and worthless to the giver, even if the
> >> recipient does benefit, the giver does not. Unless, of course, we
> >> consider emptying the garbage a 'benefit.'
> >
> > I totally agree with that & the way you have expressed it.
> > BTW your nic is interesting. :)
> > I have been working on my first webpage all in html (have done using
> > frontpage years ago) & my mind is spinning a bit, could be those two
> > glasses of red wine :o)
> >
> > I'm glad I got the advice not to buy Dreamweaver, this is so much more
> > fun (I think).
> >
>
> the nic is a long story ;-)
>
> I've found writing HTML/CSS to be both fun and satisfying, and
> frustrating to the point of kbd smashing hysterics ;-)
>
> Although it may not be so much the HTML as that the browsers
> render it differently.
>
> Wine is better shared. :-)

Don't blame the kbd, poor thing gets bashed enough.
I suppose it depends if the browser is in a strop with you.
I shared the wine with Edith Piaf
Singing along with her - 'Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien'

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