Posted by oldwetdog on 06/06/06 19:38

verity wrote:
> oldwetdog wrote:
>> verity wrote:
>>> oldwetdog wrote:
>>>> verity wrote:
>>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
>>>>>> verity wrote:
>>>>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
>>>>>>>> verity wrote:
>>>>>>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> verity wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> oldwetdog wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Laplante wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you've read this far at all you're probably ready to jump in with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> view that Word is possibly the WORST html editor ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But. . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word can actually be a useful html TEXT editor. The trick is to use it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Recover text from any file" mode. If you open an html file in that mode, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens the file in text mode, not html view.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can then use Word's powerful text handling features such as "Insert
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file,"Auto Correct, search and replace, etc to create and add code snippets,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. You can also use font and background colours, text formatting, etc as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visual aids when creating "sections" within your file. You can use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments features to add notes to yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get creative and you can probably think of a few good ideas of your own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using Word's numerous features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When it comes time to save the file, choose to save it as a TEXT file, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give it the .htm extension. The first time you do that, Word will remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file name and you only need hit Ctrl-S periodically to save your file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> during that editing session. If you want to save the file for future
>>>>>>>>>>>>> editing, remember to save it in native Word format. The next time you open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, your html will be opened as text complete with all the text formatting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you applied before to aid you in your page editing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps someone looking for a good HTML text editor. . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect you work for, or paid by, Bill Gates...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> never mind...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <soapbox>
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, forget using Word for editing or writing anything which
>>>>>>>>>>>> you will later use in any kind of code, including HTML
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not only are there the added steps needed as above, but when you
>>>>>>>>>>>> save your file, even in ASCII Text mode, Word embeds characters
>>>>>>>>>>>> which you then must search for and remove.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Word works fine for a spell checker...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise, use a tool for your purpose, not a tool poorly
>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to be everything to everybody.
>>>>>>>>>>>> </soapbox>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> owd
>>>>>>>>>>> Good grief, I'm actually starting to understand this stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then I guess there IS hope for me... ;-)
>>>>>>>>> There's always hope,
>>>>>>>>> not always faith & charity though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope springs eternal....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now Faith was a pretty lass, pert smile and bright eyes, while
>>>>>>>> her sister charity was a bytch...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oooops wrong page...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> actually, both Hope and Faith are within you, and I think you
>>>>>>>> have demonstrated that..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charity, now... No, it can be as rare as trust, and grudging
>>>>>>>> charity is a bitter brew indeed.
>>>>>>> Do you mean grudging to be charitable?
>>>>>>> I think it's a really nice feeling to give but whether it's a 'good'
>>>>>>> thing to give depends on the W's - what who when where and why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was referring to 'some' people being grudging when you are the
>>>>>> one who need charity. Charity seems to be used two ways, the old
>>>>>> way and the "deductible" way, and if it aint deductible you don't
>>>>>> get any. Then too, when someone is obviously displeased at having
>>>>>> to supply charity, they include bitterness and guilt with their
>>>>>> gift, like adding vinegar in you tea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from reading your posts, I expect you have all three in your soul
>>>>>> -- Faith, Hope and Charity of the old type...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the "W"s, Agreed - mostly, except sometimes it is good for
>>>>>> the giver to give, no matter the who-why of the receiver.
>>>>> Yes, that's what I meant about it not always being good, eg when it is
>>>>> given in a way that demeans the reciever.
>>>>> Or worse when the receiver is later made to feel uncomfortable; this is
>>>>> /not/ charity IMO.
>>>>> The best charity is to facilitate someone helping themselves, self
>>>>> respect is important.
>>>>>
>>>> perhaps that is the only definition of Charity -- to Help
>>>> someone. That is, if the gift does not result in the recipient
>>>> being 'better' or 'improved' in a way that is meaningful to them,
>>>> then they were not Helped.
>>>>
>>>> I also think, IMHO, that the 'gift' of charity must have value to
>>>> the giver to be of value to both the giver and the recipient. If
>>>> the 'gift' is trash and worthless to the giver, even if the
>>>> recipient does benefit, the giver does not. Unless, of course, we
>>>> consider emptying the garbage a 'benefit.'
>>> I totally agree with that & the way you have expressed it.
>>> BTW your nic is interesting. :)
>>> I have been working on my first webpage all in html (have done using
>>> frontpage years ago) & my mind is spinning a bit, could be those two
>>> glasses of red wine :o)
>>>
>>> I'm glad I got the advice not to buy Dreamweaver, this is so much more
>>> fun (I think).
>>>
>> the nic is a long story ;-)
>>
>> I've found writing HTML/CSS to be both fun and satisfying, and
>> frustrating to the point of kbd smashing hysterics ;-)
>>
>> Although it may not be so much the HTML as that the browsers
>> render it differently.
>>
>> Wine is better shared. :-)
>
> Don't blame the kbd, poor thing gets bashed enough.
> I suppose it depends if the browser is in a strop with you.
> I shared the wine with Edith Piaf
> Singing along with her - 'Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien'
>

:-( I had to look it up...

"No regrets" "describing the singer's defiant attitude towards
the past," like"Frank Sinatra's similarly unrepentant 'My Way.'"

I don't remember hearing "No, I regret nothing," but am familiar
with "My Way," and have always thought it a little too self
centered. It seems to me that the better way is to compromise a
little with life, rather than to attempt to impose one's own will
upon life.

The example which comes first to mind is your 25 year
imprisonment in a relationship with a person who demanded
absolute control over you.

I hope you have not found it necessary to become what you escaped
from; on the one hand, yet relieved that you can go on with your
live without suffering the unnecessary baggage of regret.

so,
light a candle, sip fine wine, listen to beautiful music, watch
the clouds drift across a starry night...be happy,
enjoying your life is the best revenge (especially if you do not
do it as revenge) :-)

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