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Posted by Stu on 06/12/06 18:45

Hey Ryan,

I can't think of any layman's resources for indexing strategies, but I
know that Kalen Delaney's book "Inside SQL Server" has some very good
explanations of how things work under the hood (including indexes);
might be useful.

However, I am a bit perplexed as to the need for 130+ indexes being
affected by a single stored procedure; is this because of the redundant
data structure per client? Can you post some sample table structures?
It sounds as if the clustered index is actually a poor candidate given
the volume of data and the amount of time to perform a bulk insert.

Stu


Ryan wrote:
> I have a bit of a problem with regards an indexing strategy. Well,
> basically there is no indexing strategy on a set of data I have at
> work. Now, I didn't create the design as I would have allowed for this.
>
> OK, so there is primary key (clustered) indexes (mainly composite
> keys), but no other indexes on the tables. As you would expect, the
> performance leaves a lot to be desired. A hell of a lot. We have
> several million rows in a lot of the tables. None of the queries seem
> to be overly complex so we can work through the applications at a later
> stage.
>
> We have multiple copies (one per client per country) of the same
> structure (I may have considered combining these to allow better
> performance). One specific SP that I need to run takes 40+ hours
> without indexes and 5 hours with some (130) basic indexes to get us
> started on a better design. These 130 indexes are the minimum I suspect
> we need and from there, we can start to work out which ones we need.
>
> Now the test database (our worst performer) doubles in size to 20Gb,
> but the performance is much much better (as expected). The original
> thinking behind the design was for storage concerns (server space
> recently upgraded) and for performance with bulk inserts.
>
> We have a lot of bulk inserts, but I suspect that these are not too
> bad, and the time taken for indexing these is negligable due to the
> performance gains. I strongly suspect that we have a considerable
> amount of table scans going on, but the problem is that people here
> don't understand indexing (yet) or have the time (probably because it's
> all taken up using the poorly designed system). That's a whole seperate
> issue for me to address.
>
> So, finally getting round to my questions...
>
> Is there any good reference explaining in Layman's terms why you need
> basic (or advanced) indexing ? Any links would be appreciated. I need
> this to help explain to colleagues why a disk space increase and
> indexing will be far better than spending thousands on a new box and
> doing the same (a common problem I suspect).
>
> How can I accurately estimate the amount of time taken to update an
> index once data is bulk inserted. I don't want to re-index from scratch
> as this may take too long. Indexing my database first time round takes
> about 1 hour 30 minutes.
>
> It's all part of an ongoing bit of digging into the system and re-doing
> it to make it work properly. I'm sure most of you will have been there
> at some point or another.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Ryan

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