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Posted by jojo on 07/06/06 21:10
Chris Tomlinson schrieb:
> "mbstevens" <NOXwebmasterX@XmbstevensX.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.07.06.16.43.15.867369@XmbstevensX.com...
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:49:13 +0000, Spartanicus wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.superhighstreet.com/George-Street-Richmond/
>>>>
>>>> What you see is actually a series of JPGs sliced in divs.
>>> I saw no such thing, I did see a "Please click here to view this page
>>> correctly" at the top of the page, I didn't bother clicking the link.
>> I did click around for a bit. There is a truck load of javascript trying
>> to do a job that could be done more clearly with straight (X)HTML and CSS,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. What JS are you referring to? The bulk of the JS
> is the Google Maps tracking, which I assure you cannot be done with HTML &
> CSS.
>
>> and maybe a little server side scripting. It keeps zooming to places I
>> didn't intend, popping up new windows with even stranger code behind them.
>
> Can you elaborate on where it 'zoomed' to? I assume you mean
> enlarge/magnify?
>
> What strange windows popped up? All that pops up are the web sites of the
> shops you click on, which is the entire point of the site. It offers online
> shopping from a real high street. If these windows are frustrating, can you
> say how better to take a user to a shop's site without losing the street,
> street position, etc?
I found 6 externel JavaScript on this Site: 3 from maps.google.com, 2
from www.assoc-amazon.co.uk and one from pageat2.googlesyndication.com.
And there are at least 9 <script>-Tags in your main sitte and another
one in the iframe.
>> There is a slide show running and controls to kill right clicks.
>
> That's right, there is a slideshow. The idea is to bring the user to the
> street, and give them the sights and sounds.
When I scrolled or clicked the site before all your multimedia was
loaded my browser crashed (only Firefox, works on IE). So actually I was
brought nowhere...
> Without the slideshow, they
> just get a static 2D view.
And now it is 3D? I personally think that websites with sound are one of
the most cruel crimes you can commit. Not only the loading-time, it's
just annoying. And imagine someone listens to music while visiting your
site...
> We appreciate this is not what you are used to from ordinary web sites, but
> nothing was ever achieved by not trying to break molds, and as I said,
> broadband is only becoming more common.
Your site still needs a lot of time to load with broadband connections.
(especially the sound)
> Controls to kill the right clicks? One control, and it is for copyright
> reasons and only on the streetscape - you can right click anywhere else.
I just have to switch off JavaScript and - bingo, i can right click on
the images...
>> Unbelievably awful and unusable.
>
> Thanks for the constructive criticism. We appreciate it is hard for web
> designers to see sites the same way a member of the public would.
>
>> "...getting nothing but praise from
>> our visitors." Erm, not this visitor.
And not this one, too.
>> Maybe if I had an afternoon to overcome the required learning curve.
>
> Can we ask what you found so difficult to learn, as this will help us refine
> the instructions above the street. The basic principle is 'drag the street
> to walk left and right', and 'click on doors or window posters to shop
> there'. We are having trouble understanding how this would need an
> afternoon to learn.
Oh, there is one thing that you learn very quickly: Do not visit this
site again!
>> I'd make it usable and accessible before worrying about order of image
>> load.
>
> With your continued feedback on the above, we certainly hope to.
BTW: have you ever tried to validate the site?
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.superhighstreet.com%2FGeorge-Street-Richmond%2F
Cruel! The most serious mistakes:
-No doctype
-2 <html>-Tags
-Many attributes with no values (for example <meta name="..." content>
-Attributes used on tags which doesn't have them (for example <iframe
.... target="_blank" >
-Attributes used which doesn't even exist
I wonder what program creates such wasted code... Even FrontPage can do
it better I think... Or was it FrontPage?
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