Posted by dorayme on 10/19/06 00:41

In article <slrnejcabl.pcu.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>,
Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1161165284.431077.35160@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Travis
> Newbury wrote:
> > Validation, is a good starting point, but you have to find the balance
> > that makes your site successful in it's little niche. There is another
> > side to the web, an inaccessible, javascript loving, Flash hugging, non
> > validating side. And there are 10s of millions of people out there
> > that seek that kind of site. They come to see the presentation.
> >
> > Well I kind of got off the subject a little... Anyway, I think
> > validation is a good thing. But only if it does not break my
> > presentation.
>
> You do realise you are merely making yourself sound incompetent?
> It is generally possible to have an excellent and flexible look and
> feel without compromising on having poor code or an inaccessible site.
>
This may be too strong. It may need a very high level of
competency to go your route in a given limited time and effort.


> Contrary to what you're saying, nobody deliberately "seeks"
> inaccesible sites - why would they?

You misunderstand Travis. He is not meaning every little thing
literally. He has blood running in his veins and rightly likes to
take a bit of license and exaggerate a few things when having a
rave. He is not some wimpy left wing cool measured prof. He is
saying that people seek somethings and do not care or are
unconscious of the validation side.


>
> Also contrary to your "presentation is king" argument, people may well
> have an initial good reaction to a flashy pretty site, but if it
> doesn't actually work well and in a user-friendly manner, they will
> quickly become disillusioned and leave.

Again, a slight misunderstanding in that Travis' point is that if
it is inaccessible to a small percentage, this may well be a
price worth paying for the other benefits. In other words, if it
works so that a big percentage of people notice nothing untoward,
that is worth it sometimes.

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dorayme

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