Posted by Lauri Raittila on 06/20/05 11:22

in alt.html, Manny wrote:
>

> > Obviously, you learned couble hard ways to do layout. You don't need to,
> > and it is very hard to think layout before you have any content, when you
> > make it in proper way.
>
> Ok, maybe my english was not very good. I already designed and created my
> site 6 years ago with tables, fonts and frames tags. Now, I want to learn
> the new techniques of element placement with divs and css.

I got it. You were doing bad table layouts for 6 years, and now want to
change. That is good. I did the same for about 5 years. Then I did 1 year
of good table layout. As you never did table layout right, you propably
ever used much real structural markup in your HTML. To do CSS layout,
that is essential, you shouldn't do it without.

Make some scetch using hX elements, p elements, ul and ol, a and img.
Then start thinking about layout. You wanted very simple layout, there is
basically not much to do on it. Well, maybe example helps:
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~laurirai/www/css/examples/float2col.html
(that is bit too complicated)

> This example with table was just to give an idea of the design I try to
> realize (i.e. fixed width of 760, even if window is larger or narower; top
> of page with fixed height to display title of site and menu; left column 25%
> of the width -190px-; right column 75% of the width -570px-; bottom of page
> to display navigation links and copyright). In fact, I want to get rid off
> tables and fonts and frames and keep only divs and css styles for the new
> design :

What you don't get is that I already gave you all information you would
need. As you don't have any structured HTML to tag it, you don't of
course see it.

> X is scrollbar. Display of the browser window and the design inside :
[snipped useless ascii drawing done in non-fixed width font]
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