Posted by Double Echo on 12/14/06 19:07

Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <bIegh.1422$lc1.1288@fe56.usenetserver.com>,
> Double Echo <doubleecho@your.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Sorry for not getting back sooner... had a lot of work interrupting my
>> newsgroup time. :-)
>>
>> Here-doc allows you to basically print out whatever is between the pattern
>> you choose.
>>
>> I use ENDOFHTML but you could use ENDOFCODE or whatever.
>>
>> Perl has a similar construct:
>>
>> print <<ENDOFHTML;
>> ENDOFHTML
>>
>> Notice the semi-colon at the top, PHP is a bit more "correct" putting the
>> semi-colon at
>> the end:
>>
>> print <<<ENDOFHTML
>> ENDOFHTML;
>>
>> PHP also uses "<<<" whereas Perl uses "<<".
>>
>> Anyway, embedded PHP programs were the rave a couple of years ago, and people
>> were doing
>> it trying to create really dynamic pages, but it's really messy as you've
>> found out to
>> do it that way.
>>
>> It's easier to print <<<EDNDOFHTML because you can actually use ' and "
>> in the block without trouble. There are also a lot of web servers that don't
>> like embedded
>> PHP in HTML docs and will barf or ignore it if you attempt it. So, it's
>> better to embed HTML in PHP,
>> and save yourself the hassle.
>
> No, I've gone away from this approach and had no problems at all. My
> pages embed the PHP in the HTML. Its a lot easier that way. I use PHP to
> dynamically generate the html based on what is in our mysql database.
>
> -- tim


It might be easier for _you_, but not for the next poor bastard that will have
to agonize at the shitmess you made.

There is no excuse for shitty-looking code. Another annoyance for me are people
who have to roll-up their brackets as if there is a line penalty for good, structured
code. Like you're going to run out of lines or air or something.

People who like to

if (...) {
}

or

while(...) {
}

annoy the fuck-out-of-me because I have to stop, read really slowly and try to grasp
the nesting, and logic. It's all rolled up so you can't hardly separate the code into
something readable.

It's so much cleaner to

if ( ... )
{
code here
}

or

while( ... )
{
code here
}

but all the goddam schools preach shitmess roll-up coding and OO. It works but it's so fucking
messy. You fucking kids think it's cool code, and wow, neato, but then somebody else has to
work on it, and it's a fucking nightmare. Clean code, nested, and properly written will allow
the code to be debugged better, and probably survive being re-written all over again because you
can actually read it. I've gone on to delete code I can't read and just re-wrote it cleanly.

-DE- ( using my best Dr. House imitation )

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