Posted by Respondant on 01/13/07 21:17

jitter wrote:

> In article <-dqdnTFaNZS63DTYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Respondant@noemail.not says...
>> jitter wrote:
>>
>>> In article <q5SdnQ85xae_qzTYnZ2dnUVZ_vupnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> Respondant@noemail.not says...
>>>> Rev Turd Fredericks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Respondant wrote:
>>>>>> -=Biscuit=- wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <sig partially restored>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help Heather kick cancer's ass! http://www.limeproject.org
>>>>>>
>>>>> SNIP>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the WORST, by FAR, was the bone marrow
>>>>>> biopsy. I don't know if they still do it the same way these
>>>>>> days, but I was given a tongue depressor and asked to assume the
>>>>>> fetal-position while they shoved something that (IIRC) looked
>>>>>> pretty-much like a cork screw into my hip. Screwed it IN, and
>>>>>> YANKED it out. I NEVER felt pain like that before, and hope I
>>>>>> never do again. Bottom line? Hodgkin's Disease.
>>
>>>>> A few months aqo I had a bone marrow biopsy and it was totally
>>>>> painless. They have refined the technique and the drugs they use.
>>>>> It stung a bit for a few days after, but no worse than a cut would
>>>>> have. Thankfully for me, the news was good.
>>>>
>>>> Good to know. When I had it done (again, 1977) all I was given
>>>> was a "local" and a tongue depressor to bite on.
>>>>
>>>> Never did find out why they didn't put me "out" for that, or at
>>>> least do it while I was already "under" having the lymph nodes
>>>> removed.
>>>
>>> Doctors can be evil. Nurses and "technicians" (vo-tech grads who
>>> never even went to college, let alone med school) can be even worse.
>>> They do similar stuff to burn patients: Strap them starked naked to
>>> a metal "bed", lower that into a pool of water, and then scrub the
>>> burns with gauze. Ever touched a burn? Hurts like hell, doesn't
>>> it? Well, imagine having it SCRUBBED with what amounts to sandpaper.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> You're comparing treatments to diagnostics, and spanning four
>> decades in the process.
>
> Four decades? No. One decade, perhaps. The happy funtime burn-bath
> process I described was still happening in the 1990s. I'm sure it was
> even worse in the 1960s, but I can't imagine how.

I (and others) were talking about bone marrow biopsies, and how that
procedure has progressed to the point where it's not as painful these days
as it was in the 70's. (It's still a diagostic procedure, not a treatment)
Or were you thining bone marrow TRANSPLANT?

*YOU* were the one who then butted in and started talking about how painful
burn TREATMENT is, and how (IYO) it's *still* just as painful as it ever
was.

Admittedly I know nothing about burn treatments, or how painful they are.
And I never do.

The point is, you compared a diagnostic procedure to a treatment.

Do you see the difference, or not?

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