Posted by al jones on 01/31/07 12:08

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:30:33 +0100, John Hosking wrote:

> al jones wrote:
>>
>> I've put the european 'quote' marks in as next page / previous page on two
>> pages (08/??/63 WWvA and 08/11/63 WWvA Diary) clear and float aren't doing
>> what I expect them to - but that isn't anything new.
>>
>> To add insult to injury, the image alignment which was working has just
>> fallen apart again - and since you've understood what I've been trying to
>> do, I'm imposing - if you would be so kind.
>>
>
> Hello, Al
>
> Yes, I noticed yesterday you were "troubled" again but I couldn't take
> time to look at your stuff then. Even now I'm a bit busy but will look
> at your site a bit more soon. For now, two items which I can talk about
> quickly because they're the two little things I might have a chance of
> knowing what I'm talking about:
>
> 1. Your page titled/named "Forward" should really be "Foreword."
> "Forward" is a direction; a "foreword" is the word(s) which come(s)
> before. So your introductory text about who William Wallace Van Amber
> was is really a foreword. Readers can go forward from there... ;-)
Abashed!!!! :) and I consider myself somewhat of a grammarian. Thanks for
pointing that out. Fixed but not uploaded. ((Sheesh!!)
>
> 2. The European quotation marks (otherwise popularly known as LEFT- and
> RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARKS or guillemets) are way too
> small. Also, it's not readily apparent what they're doing there when
> they *are* noticed. I suggest you style them larger and add a title
> attribute, as for example in
> <a class="ppage" title="to previous record" href="630809va1.html">«</a>.
> (It would be better to say "previous letter" or "previous diary page" as
> applicable, but that means you have to know what came before and after,
> and be more careful about coding each page. More of a pain to maintain.)
See changes related to the other half of this, I've increased the size, and
if I can get this working correctly I'd like to grab someones 'arrows' with
next / previous in them but at this point I'm not sure this isn't an
exercise in futility. Definitely more of a pain, but I'd like to see it
since it would let people go from letter to letter without having to return
to the 'index'.
>
> And you don't want clear here, just float. But try rearranging the order
> (no, it's not something you're expected to guess). Study (and try):
>
> .ppage { float:left; font-size:1.4em; }
> .npage { float:right; font-size:1.4em; }
> h2 { text-align:center;
> margin-top:0;
> padding:0em; }
>
> <a class="ppage" title="previous record" href="630809va1.html">«</a><a
> class="npage" title="next record" href="630816va1.html">»</a><h2>Diary
> Entries August 11th, 1863</h2>
see my two sample pages, you and one other in the other thread suggested
this and the results I saw weren't what I expected. I''m obviously not
understanding something ((a LOT of comsthings))
>
> That's all I can offer right now. More about the image alignment later.
> But lets review your requirements, okay?
Sure ...
>
> You want the diary pages on the left side of your main content (it's
> understood the long list of letters and diary pages are on the screen's
> far left, inviolate).
To the first half (position of the image / text) yes, that's true. As far
as the long list - I'd be most open to an alternative but I don't see one -
it's far from inviolate!
>
> For each diary page image, you want the textual transcription to be to
> the right of the image, with the first entry's text (starting with its
> date) lining up with the top of the image containing that original text.
> Yes?
True ...
>
> Now, if the writer didn't have much to say (or the font size is
> smallish), the text won't stretch down the length of the image. In this
> case, you just want some empty space to the right of the lower part of
> the image. Correct?
Again true ...
>
> Each diary page might have three days' worth of entries, so the text
> "per page" might stretch below the bottom of the page's image. (This can
> also happen when the font size is large or huge or gigantic.) In this
> case, what do you want to happen? Should the "extra" text flow under and
> to the left, below the image? Or would you like the left margin of the
> text transcription to always be a straight line, always to the right of
> the images' right edges?
Preference is to have it flow under the associated imag - as it does now
when things are working correctly.
>
> Do you like or dislike horizontal rules separating the diary pages'
> texts (3 by 3)?
I've put <hr/>'s in several pages - it provides a c;ean break between the
one set of images and text and the next set. '(3 by 3)' Not sure what you
mean by this.

I'm trying to get dressed - my truck is sitting in the yard waiting for me
to appear, like everyone else I have a day job that seems to make demands
on my time - that said, I appreciate your efforts on helping this layman.
(actully I appreciate everyones help!!)

I'm now running late so I'm gone, thanks //al

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