Posted by "Matt Babineau" on 06/27/05 21:22

Yeah -> I'll second all of this. I'm a Certified Macromedia CF Developer,
why do you ask am I on this list? The answer is simple, php is better.
However with the recent developments in CF6, CF has become very comparable.
Why would I still choose PHP over CF given this? Ease of management. I don't
have to even think about the server. I spend about 1 hr a month messing
around with the server (daemon restarts or php config changes). That's where
LAMP's value really shines through I think you will find.



Thanks,

Matt Babineau
Criticalcode
858.733.0160
matt@criticalcode.com
http://www.criticalcode.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Pauly [mailto:bpauly@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:09 AM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP vs. ColdFusion

On 6/26/05, Rick Emery <rick@emery.homelinux.net> wrote:
> My employer has (finally) decided to take full advantage of our
> intranet, and wants to move from client-server applications to
> web-based applications. To that end, we're trying to determine the
> best platform for our applications. We're a Microsoft shop, with
> Microsoft SQL Server 2000 for all of our databases (that won't change
> any time soon, if ever). Due to past experience that I won't get into,
> we (the Development group) have all agreed that ASP.Net is out (at
> least for the short term).
>
> We had the opportunity to visit a local enterprise that has deployed
> ColdFusion, and they couldn't stop singing its praises. I'm partial to
> PHP, even after sampling Coldfusion, so what I would like is some
> "ammunition" that I can take into a meeting to "sell" management on
> PHP instead of ColdFusion. I've already been harping on the difference
> in cost, so I'm looking for other points to go with. Besides, we'll
> probably invest in Zend products if we choose PHP, and Macromedia has
> government rates available; I don't have any numbers (yet), but the
> cost difference may not be that great in the end.
>
> Any input would be greatly appreciated. Opinions are welcome
> (especially from programmers with experience in both), but I have to
> "sell" it to management (I'm already on the PHP side), so links to
> data or articles comparing the two are best.

It might not be easy to put a number on, but consider your (and possibly the
other developers') enthusiasm about PHP. I would guess that you will be more
productive with something that you are excited about.

I have done a lot of work in both ColdFusion and PHP and I much prefer PHP.
There are some technical reasons (i.e., I like "shared nothing"), but some
of it is also personal preference. I just like it. CF is fine and I don't
think it's dead, but it just isn't as fun to work with. My biggest problem
with CF is probably that I have to use it on Windows and, well, I really
don't like that. ;) You mention being in a Windows environment so maybe you
don't have a choice with that aspect.

If management can see that you are stoked to use PHP that might help your
cause.

- Brad

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