Posted by Steve on 02/13/07 15:07

"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:53d7o3F1s9c2fU1@mid.individual.net...
| Steve wrote:
| > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
| > news:53b343F1rcfpjU1@mid.individual.net...
| > | trashed wrote:
| > | > Rik wrote:
| > |
| > | Please don't top-post and use a news-client that can quote properly
too.
| >
| > aho,
| >
| > isn't top-posting when you intentionally set your date/time to the
future
|
| No, it's when you type your response above the text you are replying to,
see
| the link Rik gave.


actually, i was trying to be polite. what i gave *is* the original
definition of top-posting. rik's wiki confirms this with the first line (in
italics). it also shows that it has another meaning which is making your
response text appear at the top of a reply. the former definition is a
cardinal sin while the latter is a matter of preference...usually agreed
upon by those in a ng.

| > as for replying and making your response the first text seen, i prefer
that.
|
| You may, but not everyone and it a no if you would follow the netiquette.

netiquette is set by those in a ng and differs between the many ng's out
there. though posts aren't email, a good news reader (not web based shit
like google groups) will keep a thread in order even when a message has been
removed from a usenet server. if you are active in a group where threads are
naturally deeply nested, top-posting is the order of the day. and at a
minimum, in-line follows in preference.


| > i hate having to scroll to see if
| > someone answered in line or at the bottom of a post...especially the
longer
| > the post.
|
| Yes, it's bad and against netiquette, to keep the whole original post and
give
| a short answer, you only keep the text you are replying to.
| Something that is really annoying is that there are news clients that
don't
| filter away post footers, it starts to look really bad when a post has 3-4
| previous posts footers too.

it is neither bad nor against netiquette. sometimes the whole op is needed
for context to the response...further, if you are in a debate and snip a
portion of the op, you will surely be accused of doing so on purpose because
you cannot debate the point because of its correctness.

'bad' is relative to context...'netiquette' is not a religious dication like
the hummarabi or ten commandments. both are agreed to by a concenting group.
'bad' becomes the violation of said agreement.

either way, i appreciate your perspective.

cheers

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