Posted by Blinky the Shark on 06/29/05 00:02

Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:

>> Els wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:

>>>>>>> So - you pay per byte? Or per month?

>>>>>> Month. Unlimited time. That's the DU norm, over here. Range for
>>>>>> unlimited-time DU is $10US to $20US a month, depending on who you're
>>>>>> with. For example, I have one friend who does a $10 plan; for that
>>>>>> he gets something like 100 minutes a month. Cheap? Sure.

>>>>> That must be including use of the line then, right?

>>>> Huh? Yes, without a phone line, he can't connect. I must be missing
>>>> your question.

>>> I thought you were talking about a package of $10 which you pay to the
>>> ISP. Don't know about the USA, but here you pay for the line, and for

>> I *am* talking about ISP charges.

> Hmm...

>>> the minutes separately. Also, Internet dial up numbers are charged

>> So do I. So does he. We pay the phone company for the phone line. We
>> pay the ISP for the connection.

> Okay, so...

>>> differently than regular phone numbers. So - I thought $10 was for 100
>>> minutes to an Internet phone number only. (which would be expensive
>>>:-) )

>> No, it's for the ISP. The phone bill is for the phone company; i.e.,
>> the line.

> So, the $10 plan is for 100 minutes of connection to the ISP - which

Yes.

> means the phone line is not included, cause that's paid on the
> phonebill. Or am I misunderstanding again? :S

Yes it is; no you're not.

> That is really expensive! 10 cent per minute? I find dial-up in

That's why nearly everyone has an unlimited account. I mentioned
that one friend as an example of how NOT to connect, not because
it's the usual way.

> Holland expensive already! Using a free (no monthly fee) ISP for
> dial-up costs almost Euro 0.05 per minute. (half price after
> 19.00hrs). Paying a monthly fee of Euro 1.95 will lower the price per
> minute to the rate for local phone calls, which is Euro 0.0289 per
> minute. (half after 19.00hrs).
> There's a free minutes package too btw - 10 hours for 8 Euro. :-)

I'm doing what's the norm here: unlimited $20/month connection.

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