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Posted by Steve on 02/28/07 16:43

| Well, Hatter is kind of trying to emulate what HTML does in Flash,
| which is a bit pointless. I don't think his site is engineered at all;
| All this stuff he's doing is kinda... backwards. Using URLs to modify
| the content in *this* way is a bit weird; I can understand what he's
| trying to achieve, but I don't think that Flash is mature enough when
| it comes to searchengine accessibility for it to give him the results
| he wants without a lot of pointless pain.
|
| Rather than trying to get his Flash site to be indexable in this way,
| he should provide all of the content via HTML (which is indexable) and
| let Flash do Fancy display things for users who have Flash installed.
| One lump of content (XML), displayed via HTML or Flash. Rather than
| trying to get Flash to be HTML, which it's clearly not. Bookmarking is
| a bit of a bugbear with Flash, but he's barking up the wrong tree
| anyway IMO.

as i have been saying, he is the biggest cause of his own problems. it's not
the fault of any technology he is using - which he quite contrarily
maintains. it is the way in which he uses any given technology. he clearly
has no depth of understanding of any he employs...that includes flash -
which he boasts about being some kind of wizard. he also apparently has no
plan of attack based on such understandings of any OSI layer...that, or he
cannot plan accordingly.


| Flash penetration dropped a little over the last three months - Vista
| (I think) does not ship with a Flash player (unlike earlier versions
| of Windows), forcing people with new computers to download Flash by
| hand. But the overall trend is a growing number of Flash enabled
| users, with Flash enabled browsers.
|
| Having said all of that... Flash is pretty much THE most important web
| technology right now, and will grow exponentially over the coming
| year. Mainly because of Video, broadcast and other multimedia
| technologies it provides to the desktop. If you ignore it, you may
| wind up playing catch up while everyone else has moved on. Don't be to
| quick to write Flash off.

don't confuse 'the most important' with 'the most popular'. THE MOST
important developing web technology is STILL XML.

as far as my utilizing it, i don't rule anything out. my point was to his
over-reliance on it and with very limited fallback for 'customers' that
don't have flash.

as for me 'playing catch up', i program in six different languages
professionally and have done so since the 80's. i am confident i can learn
any language. what's more important is to know high-level what can/can't be
done with a technology. that will help you decide (objectively) whether or
not to employ it. 'playing catch up' is EXACTLY what should be done. either
you will be jumping into a more formalized and stable platform, or it will
have gone by the way-side. getting in 'early' is not a very pragmatic
approach at all for a number of reasons in this context.

what i don't get with OMH is why he is using flash for graphics generation.
i can see providing it, but not creating it. oh well, OdickHeadeous Mad
Hatter is the boggler of his own mind...i will not try to rationally account
for 'reasonings' of a lunatic.

cheers

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