Posted by Adrienne Boswell on 03/01/07 17:52

Travis Newbury wote:
> On Feb 28, 4:02 pm, "Adrienne Boswell" <arb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I like to shop online - I especially like shopping for groceries on
> > line because I don't have to worry about taking my preschooler to the
> > store with me and listening to him cry because he can't have
> > something.
>
> You need to discipline your son so he won't do that. It is obviously
> a bad behavior. Perhaps VON's abuse of the tables is only a symptom
> of the real problem, that is, your son's behaviors?

Actually, my son, who is three years old, does quite well for his
age. Problem is, like all little ones, he can
get bored before I am finished. Not my son's fault, not a bad
behaivor problem. It's my problem because I take
too long for HIM.

>
> > They use ASPX, which explains some of why
> > it's so bad, but I have seen other ASPX sites that are not as bad,
> > heck, they can even validate if the author is conscientious.
>
> ASPX is not alive and can do nothing by itself. I am sure ASPX is not
> the culprit. It is those programing the ASPX that cause problems.
> (The same for ASP, PHP or anything else.)

Actually, that's not true. ASPX _does_ insert it's own brand of bad
stuff. Classic ASP, just as PHP, is dependant on the developer for
bad markup.

>
> > The whole point of this post is a warning to those who want to abuse
> > tables, use images for input buttons, gratitous javascript, etc.
> > Please don't do that! Users want to get in an out quickly - especially
> > if it's a place they frequent often.
>
> I was able to see everything just fine, and the speed was more than
> acceptable to me. I saw no issues at all (well the stupid Flash
> splash screen was a waste of my time, but easily bypassed)

What Flash? There's no flash splash screen. Maybe there're doing some
kind of IP sniffing or something, because mine does not have any.

>
> Some of your issues seem to be personal preference. I tend to like
> the pictures and really have no issue with the speed or the use of
> tables for layout, you (and others) feel differently.

What gets me is their use of images for simple increase/decrease
quantity. If I load a page that has 20 products, there are 50
images. Perhaps their caching is bad as well, because each one is a
different request fo the server. That's why it takes so long.

> I guess if
> enough of those that don't like the current website either write to
> them, or just stop using the site and take their business elsewhere,
> they will get the idea and change. But if there are no (or not
> enough) complaints and they don't see a decrease in sales, then they
> can only assume that their site is working fine and there is no need
> to change.

I called them this morning to complete my order, because their was a
server error and the order did not complete. While I was on phone
with them, the rep was complaining about how slow the site was. I
also said something about it, and she said she was going to report
it. Maybe if enough people complain, they WILL do something about it.
>
> > There - I feel better, thank you.
> You may want to think about disciplining your son though. That
> "crying because he can't have something" behavior will only get worse
> as he gets older... (according to the University of Virginia and
> others)

He doesn't do that. He knows better than to act that way. My biggest
problem with him is him wanting to get out and push the cart - that's
okay, but he's not a very good driver yet, so he has a tendency to run
over my feet.
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