Posted by shimmyshack on 03/03/07 18:28

On 3 Mar, 15:36, xsxs <bertic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> shimmy,
> thnx for the advice!
>
> is there a free form editor floating around?
>
> On 2 Mar 2007 16:37:04 -0800, "shimmyshack" <matt.fa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2 Mar, 17:09, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> >> "xsxs" <bertic...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1qjgu2hpvg7kjhdmgsbiicloblp0p9b18r@4ax.com...
> >> | Is it capable? Or in anyway comparable to Dreamweaver of any of the
> >> | big boys?
>
> >> by 'big boy' i assume you mean expensive, bloated, ineffective, yet still
> >> highly-popular? hmmm...yeah...just like AOL. but i digress...
>
> >> | I am just getting interested in web design and I'm trying avoid
> >> | dropping the cash so any tips or alternative programs would be
> >> | appreciated.
>
> >> learn html and css. no matter the tool you use, your work will suffer if you
> >> don't know what it's output is or how it is derived.
>
> >> i like crimson editor. it doesn't have intellisense or code folding but it
> >> does have vertical editing (multi-line modification), and as i'm terribly
> >> fussy about coding standards, this is a deal-breaker for me.
>
> >> eclispe is nice and has tons of other things besides vertical editing, but
> >> damn if it ain't slow...hmmm...must be the fact it's written in java.
>
> >> any tool you use is up to your preference and budget. zend probably has the
> >> best php ide on the market...and they know it - as seen in the price tag.
>
> >> most of the time though, i'd settle for notepad. ;^)
>
> >NVU is mozilla based so it comes with addons just like firefox or
> >thunderbird. It's quite nice. NVU is cross platform so if you ever
> >install linux as you start to test your websites on other operating
> >systems you can carry on your work there.
>
> > There's something around called php_scite which is scintilla based,
> >very lightweight fast supports many code highlights but has php
> >functions built it code folding etc..
>
> >But .... also try tsWebEditor, opesource and free, it's got some nice
> >features and will only get better, you can work via webdav or ftp, and
> >it supports remote debugging too via a php debugging dll. Again is
> >lightweight and very fast, not wysiwyg, but to be honest its just as
> >fast coding by hand once you've learned the basics - which you do by
> >coding by hand. tsWebEditor has an SQL designer, and many options, it
> >supports multibyte encoding very nicely - so you get to
> >internationalise your website easily. It is my freebie recommendation
> >until you can install Eclipse which will make your head ache - it's
> >more powerful in so many ways that Dreaweaver. In fact Eclipse is THE
> >editor IMHO, better than VS.net 2005 (which a freebie version exists
> >if you have a desire to go microsoft for any reason)
>
> >Both scite and tsWebEditor support sessions, kill the thing and
> >restart where you were.
>
> >*tsWebEditor* it has niggles but is my tip for the future.

I must admit to only ever programming in text editors, I am not
knowledgable on wysiwyg I'm, afriad, however as you are on a php
forum, there are frameworks - rather than editors - where you get to
type in the attributes of your form, and a php function will generate
the form itself, like Ruby on rails does, PEAR, Zend, Symfony, Cake
etc.. probably all have form generating classes.
The benfit is that your backend php stuff connects seemless with the
form, despite you not caring how it was produced, although of course
it will use modern standards based, fieldsets, labels and so on. This
is an API appraoch where you get the php wrapping the markup, in a way
that provides access to the attirubtes and values, and using client
javascript includes also the look and feel, all from the convenience
of a php class.
$objForm = new Form('Nice Form
Title','actionURL','methodType','encodingType', 'id','class');
$objForm =
addTextInputLabel('id','initial_value','lowercase','htmlescape');

.....
you get the point, not an editor but it does save TIME.

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