Posted by robert maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t on 03/10/07 06:23

> From: John Hosking <J...@DELETE.Hosking.name.INVALID>
> some poor saps in Africa have lots worse connectivity and have to
> make do as best they can.

Do you honestly consider sending out a billion Nigerian 419 spam
per hour "make do as best they can". They have shit better net
connecivity than I have, but they squander such connectivity with
gross abuse instead of the decent kinds of things I do.

Oh, you're talking about the vast majority of Africans who don't
even have a roof over their head nor electricity nor potable water
much less a **COMPUTER**, not even one shared computer per village?
Nevermind.

> I do suggest you not worry about vertical spacing in various
> browsers until you are in a position to try them out and compare
> results.

In fact I got very brief access to Mozilla and IE last week, and
looked quickly at part of my CookTop and Matrix, and was horrified
to see how badly they did, putting blank lines in all sorts of
unwanted places. Unfortunately my access there is too limited to
allow me to try various things to remedy the not-what-the-doctor-ordered
rendering.

> > So if you want to include code snippets in the middle of
> > running text, how do you do it?
> Using <code>.

I tried that. It doesn't work. Instead of:
begin
n=5;
m=3*n;
print m;
end
I got begin n=5; m=3*n; print m; end, which is not at all what I want.

> <p>Now once you... So suppose you enter two numbers, with a space
> between them, such as... <code>42 69 </code>on a single line of input?
> ...right now.</p>

I tried that. It doesn't work.

> I can style the <code> element with whatever font, and as a
> block, with some spacing fore and aft

Maybe you can do that, but I can't, so your comment is irrelevant.

> if you're trying for any semantic correctness, is to mark your
> paragraphs as <p>.

Please take another look at both CookTop and Matrix and let me know
if you see anything like that currently.

> Within the <p> elements then, mark up some <code> (as Jonathan
> explained), or use <div> elements (as Jukka suggested), or use
> <pre> and style it for those who can appreciate such things.

Block-level tags are not allowed inside paragraphs.
And even if I could add styling to <pre>, there'd be no way for me
to see what I'm doing, so it'd come out crap for absolute sure.
Of course if you are willing to be eyes-for-the-blind, I could do
it blind and listen to your description of how it looks. Would you
be willing to join me on IRC sometime soon to work like that?
I edit a change, then IRC tell you I did it, then you look at it and
IRC tell me how it looks, lather rinse repeat.
Are you willing to spend the time helping me like that?

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