Posted by Ben on 03/30/07 23:02

"shimmyshack" <matt.farey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 30, 11:11 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> Ben wrote:
>> > "shimmyshack" <matt.fa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1175275132.374121.229580@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > This is exactly the type of response I was looking for. My *current*
>> > ignorance prevents a rebuttal based on experience so I just listen.
>> > He
>> > actually said, "Well in ten years no one knows if PHP and Java will
>> > still be
>> > around but we know M$ will be there." and. "Look at the added
>> > development
>> > cost of PHP/Java, I could knock this grid out in two hours with M$ and
>> > spent
>> > a day with this and have nothing." Problem is he's got influence and I
>> > totally disagree with the direction....so...plan is to build a working
>> > proto-type in PHP/Java/MySQL. So I need to get busy, lack of
>> > experience
>> > doesn't scare me and I can always fall back on groups.
>>
>> I can knock this grid out in 1.5 hours!
>>
>> --
>> ==================
>> Remove the "x" from my email address
>> Jerry Stuckle
>> JDS Computer Training Corp.
>> jstuck...@attglobal.net
>> ==================
>
> I know Jerry, this is what I think too: what is the difference between
> using an IDE like VS that "helps me get stuff done super fast" and
> reusing an abstracted component you write yourself from scratch and
> understand, which you store somewhere easy to find later, and can copy
> and paste in place, pulling the data from a db and styling with css,
> it's why the activegrid guys have done so well!
> I appreciate that it might be harder to ajaxify a fully fledged app,
> whereas in VS it comes down to highlighting and clicking but I don't
> trust the result of those highlights and clicks.
>

Well I do have some exp designing a system that was developed in VB.NET a
couple years ago. I was all design but led the developers, serious white
board time. Working with them was fun, how they bragged about how wonderful
it was and cut dev time way down, etc....but when it went to live production
the time saved by wizard driven development was paid for, in my opinion
twice over. Again, I haven't much experience programming web based apps but
do understand the concept. Being an old-school xBase guy who has functions
built many years ago still saving me time today....am of the same mind set.
I know what my stuff does and I only had to suffer through the pain of
writing it once.

Thanks for the replies, good info and resource recs. Now I need to lock
myself in the basement and read, test, train, debug....I need some good
montage music!

Thanks again, I'll have more nooB questions to be slaughtered or answered
here soon.

=B

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