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Posted by Roman on 04/02/07 00:06

Ben wrote:
> This is not a troll post. I am doing research on my own too but could use
> your guys/gals help. As mentioned in prev thread our company is about to
> embark on building a large scale web based application. "Shimmy" provided
> some help already but need more. This app will be hit by thousands of
> users, large data sets and be fed by GPS handheld devices such as cell
> phones, which will also require apps we write running on them. The response
> time of current data to screen is paramount (which relies in largely on DB
> design I realize). The decision makers are leaning towards .NET and I feel
> they are making a mistake. Hoping not for MS bashing here but facts.

PHP has been designed as "glue" language and many libraries are written
in C/C++ for performance reasons. PHP is slow, although PHP5 got better.
Find the benchmarks on:

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/

Please note, that C# in above benchmarks is for Mono compiler. MS
implementation is superior to that in many aspects including performance.

..NET has been designed as general purpose programming environment and
not just a scripting glue. .NET IL compiles right before it is executed
into the machine instructions similarly to JavaVM.

Novel did not invest $millions to port .NET into Unix world just for
fun. They must have seen a benefit and market.

I share the same opinion as your team - high performance website with
lot of built-in computing would be better off with either .NET or Java.

>
> - Why is/isn't .NET a better solution for large scale apps?
>
> - Are the majority of current large scale web apps using .NET ?
>

I see many Java servers (CNET, 1&1). eBay, Digikey (big electronic
distributor) run ISAPI extension, which is about as fast as custom
webserver (Google).

You can simulate these things by website stress tools. Do your research.

But the general answer is that tool is a tool, it helps you if you use
it properly. I don't see anything wrong with well designed PHP website
with most PHP sessions mostly waiting for database results.

--
Roman Ziak
www.dipmicro.com

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