Posted by Jon Slaughter on 04/17/07 22:42

"Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
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> On 2007-04-17, Jon Slaughter <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> Well, My issue is not learning it so much but I guess I get pissed when I
>> run into trouble and they do it in such a contorted way. Languages are
>> suppose to be about making things easier and not more difficult.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned I'd rather use JS as atleast it is a programming
>> language. But ofcourse then it limits my user base. Why not just use a
>> lite
>> version of JS that removes all the main issues with it that people don't
>> like instead of comming up with an entirely new way(and then another and
>> another).
>
> One of the issues with it people might not like is the very fact that it
> is a programming language. I might not want to allow just any old
> program written by anyone to run on my computer. But I mind less reading
> their HTML documents or letting them make suggestions about how they
> should be laid out in stylesheets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language

Its not a programming language. Its not a functional language. Its an
imperative language.

>
>> I'm tired of a new language comming out every 3.4 days just because
>> someone thinks they can do it better.
>>
>> Instead of being productive one ends up spending there time learning the
>> new
>> language. CSS looks good from the outside but not having basic
>> programming
>> constructs severly limits its ability. I only use it because it is
>> standard. I'd rather use JS because atleast with that I know whats going
>> on.
>> CSS seems fine for simple transformative applications but anything beyond
>> that seems to be hell and counterproductive. Maybe they will fix the
>> issues
>> in later versions.
>>
>> I'm just here to learn enough to get me through my site. Maybe I should
>> do
>> less bitching though and just learn it. Just really peeves me off when I
>> have to deal with so many incongruities between implementations.
>
> It's only really IE that causes all those problems. The rest are largely
> consistent on a large subset of the CSS 2.1 spec.

Why not just ban IE then? If every web developer got together and forced
everyone not to use IE then people would have no choice. MS would be forced
to actually do something about it. I think the issue is simply that the
average user is not aware of just how many problems IE cause.

To me its just a huge waste of energy and time and I guess thats what I get
fed up with. I sorta have to use it because thats all thats out there so I
have to deal with all the problems that shouldn't really be problems in the
first place.

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