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Posted by John Hosking on 04/27/07 15:30

Brian Robertson wrote:
> Amos E Wolfe wrote:
>> "Brian Robertson" <brianrobertson@[nospam].com> wrote in message
>> news:8SlYh.2335$Tu5.1149@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> I have a frames based page at
>>> http://www.conceptcrafts.co.uk/britishrailways1960
>>>
>>
>> If you continue to use frames you will need to create a separate
>> frameset page with different content in the main frame area. Other
>> members of this group will no doubt be along shortly to advise you
>> with a number of reasons why using frames is a bad idea.
>>
>> I would recommend using an alternative, such as server-side scripting.
>>
>
> Thanks for taking the trouble to reply and I agree that frames are a
> poor answer to the problem of layout BUT it is an answer that I largely
> understand and right now the content of the site itself is taking up all
> my time, running into well over 1,000 pages that all need a lot of work
> doing on them. In time, as I near completion in the information that I
> am presenting, I will certainly try to look for other solutions.
>
> I think you are missunderstanding my problem though. I want to include
> links to my website from outside, say on Wikipedia. So I want the same
> top frame to appear and the same menu in the left frame, but I don't
> want people to have to navigate from my main page through to the
> relevant article. So in an article about, for instance, a station in
> Manchester called Guide Bridge, I want the link to be
> http://www.conceptcrafts.co.uk/british railways 1960 and then something
> else to overide the instruction to put indexmain.html into the main
> frame and to instead put the page relevant to Guide Bridge.

This is one of the reasons Frames Are Evil. Frames prevent sensible
bookmarking, which equates to the same limitation you're facing, no
direct linking to specific framed content.

See for example Reason 0 at
http://www.mattheerema.com/archive/exactly-why-are-frames-bad or
"Bookmarking" at http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?FramesAreEvil. The
second reference especially shows that Amos did not misunderstand your
problem, it's the only other way (besides SSI or disposing of the
frames) to link directly to the page.

--
John

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