Posted by dorayme on 04/28/07 05:59

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<doraymeRidThis-AE5B41.15134528042007@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article
> <doraymeRidThis-304E09.08254727042007@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > I know some people will say it is ridiculous to redefine the
> > common meaning of table in this way, that it is a trick. But in
> > truth, when authors use a table for this particular layout
> > purpose, I say it is more in accordance with what they are
> > actually doing, it is a better description, a truer account of
> > their general reasonableness.
>
> dorayme, when you talk like this, you make people like Pugh think
> you are on drugs, people like Bergamot get infuriated and Korpela
> will simply see it as babble. Be a good girl or boy or creature
> or whatever you are and try not to frighten the horses so much.
> Remember, you are on a public forum.

Yes ok, I know what you mean. It is just that I think it is never
made very clear that there is a difference in kind and not merely
in degree between at least two types of uses for html tables for
non-paradigmatic tabular purposes.

In the one case, it is merely a device to arrange bits of the
page how the author wants, often for aesthetic or other
convenient purposes that do not include tabular motives. There
are especially good reasons for avoiding this.

But in the other case, there are tabular motives. The idea of the
3-D table was merely a device to bring this out. Another way of
putting it is that all the links in a navigational left column
can have a tabular relationship to items in a right col, but the
location of the right col is not on the same page but on another
page. This makes it a very different creature to the "purely for
display" table, it is much closer to the very idea of tabular
cross col mechanism that is at the heart of tables.

It is not a black and white thing. There are degrees and there
are complexities. Purists, like ideologues everywhere, are prone
to condemning with a very broad brush.

And if the sleepy heads on the north of this planets will not
come out to play with me, well, damn hell, I cannot expect anyone
in the southern hemi, meaning basically Africa, South America and
Australia to do so for the simple reason that on a Sat avo, they
are all at the footy or cricket. But you, dorayme, are always
prepared to talk to me.

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dorayme

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