Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 04/29/07 15:38

webrod wrote:
> On 28 avr, 03:13, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> webrod wrote:
>>>> No, there is no difference. In either case you are using PHP to output
>>>> information to the page. Nothing more, nothing less. Zip. Nada.
>>> This is because you are focusing on the outpout. As I said, YES the
>>> output is EXACTLY the same, if you compare the generated HTML, I agree
>>> this is the same.
>> Then who cares about how it's generated? I sure don't. You're fixating
>> on the details instead of the overall picture.
>
> I don't care about the overall picture in this thread? (and who
> cares?)
>

Who said anything about the overall picture in this thread? I'm talking
about your html.

PHP generates or controls the generation of html. That's what it does,
and if you want to validate your html you cannot ignore the php code.


>>>> So what exactly do you want to validate? The only important things are
>>>> - the PHP code itself is valid (the interpreter will tell you if it's
>>>> not),
>>> I don't care about the PHP code
>> Then don't worry about validating the source. Just use the HTML
>> validator to check the output.
>
> And if I don't want?
>

Then don't come crying to us. You've been given a very valid solution
to your problem.

>> You've got it. It's called "Brain 1.0". And no program has replaced it
>> yet. That's what you get paid for.
>
> I'm not paid for that.I've spent a lot of years to develop php website
> but now I'm .NET architect (so I'm not paid anymore to do php stuffs)
> I do not have time to spend to manually update my 100 templates php
> pages because this is to update a personal website.
> So I'm not paid for, and even If I was, I'm not paid to lost my time.
> I'm paid to do my job ASAP, I don't want to loose the money of my
> company because YOU are against automation and tools ;-)
>

I don't care whether you're a .NET architect or a sewer cleaner. You're
being paid to do a job.

And if this is a personal website, you need to determine whether it's
worth your time to continue this website. It sounds like from your
arguments it isn't.

> OK, so I guess you are paid to write php with Microsoft NOTEPAD
> because:
> - you don"t need a tool to validate in real time your php code (you
> don't care because you have brain 1.0 so you never have errors in your
> code)
> - you don't need a tool to debug your code (you don't care because you
> have brain 1.0 so you never have errors or bugs)
> - you don't need a tool to provide auto-completion (you know all the
> php functions, what they do and their parameters thanks to brain
> 1.0..)
> - you don't need a tool to manage source code (CVS..) even when you
> work in a team (you have a good communication in the team because you
> have brain 1.0 , so who cares this tool??)
> - actually you don't need a tool beacause your get paid for using your
> brain and not tools(????)
>

I actually do use Notepad for some of my PHP code. Other times I use a
syntax-highlighting editor. But that's all.

Sure I have errors in my code. But I find them quickly. But I can
write and debug it faster than a lot of people can write with an IDE.
That's why I get paid well for what I do.

And no - I don't use autocompletion. I've tried it in the past - and
always turned it off. It gets in the way too much. I'm a touch typist
and seldom look at the screen.

Having a tool such as CVS has nothing to do with this conversation.

But no, I don't need all those "tools" you require.

> Seriously, if you do not know the tool I am looking for, then don't
> waste your time ;-)
>
> Rod
>
>

I told you. Brain 1.0. But in your case it sounds like it's still in
alpha test.

>
>
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